Deborah, I am on your side. I cannot find any person at Moreletta NG Church who can forward me the news letter reporting on this incident. Could you PLEASE forward it to me?

Watchman

Thank you for your comment and it’s never to late to comment.

Moreletta is a lost church; they have been preachiing New Age teachings for quite some time now. It would be better to leave, or better yet OPEN your EYES to what is really going on there and let the HOLY SPIRIT guide you :) You can NEVER go in the wrong direction if you listen to the Holy Spirit.

As for her personality. We all have different personalities, she might not be a good fighter because confrontation scares her – she gets stuck trying to search for the right answers, but if she is meant to debate the Holy Spirit will find her an aveneue in which to do it. Maybe the she is not meant to say anything. However, staying in false teaching for the sake of not wanting to cause an argument is dangerous. Rather just leave, in fact run!

We are truely greatful for this website and your wisdom! I hope I am not too late for a comment on this topic. I forwarded this article to a friend in Moreleta to warn them, but they were furious to say the least. They said that they are definitely not studying Jesus only as an example, but as true saviour. I know them well and I know that they completely believe in Christ as their Saviour. I am however concerned that they will fall for anything that is dished up in that church as that is their tradition and she is so afraid to break with the NG Church as we grew up in it. On the other hand, I also know that she is very much afraid of going the wrong direction and that is why she is not willing to try other churches. She sees clearly what the other cell group members are trying to follow incorrectly and she has lost against them and now just keeps her mouth shut. She is not a fighter and would rather go alone to her room than to debate something, which is very dangerous for her own salvation as she is only holding on to our teachings in the NG Church and that is it. I do not know if this is really good or bad.

Leon, I suppose you follow Angus on all the wicked networks he is involved with such as TBN, God Channel, etc. Yeah, that really edifies you and helps you in your Christian walk. If he cared about the truth he would not be in bed with all those false teachers.

You obviously don’t know what the Gospel truth is, only his version of it. How about getting out your BIBLE and just allow the Holy Spirit to teach you?

Oh by the way, it would be fine for Angus to have some porches on his house down on the farm – that would not be too extravagant.

Please open your mind to what Deborah is trying to warn you about – don’t follow blindly – and it sounds like you are more thankful to Angus than the Lord drawing you through His Holy Spirit. God has used many instruments to reach people – it does not always mean that they are those He would prefer.

Leon Williamson

Oh there are more articles if you would like to read them: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/1-people/angus-buchan-shalom-ministries/

I cant believe the rubbish spoken about Angus Buchan he is a true man of God I dont see anyone else going out in faith to reach the men of S.A Shame on all the peole who spoken negatively about him,thank you Jesus for men like this who preach the gospel the truth .Go to his farm and see what he lives in yes the same house that the zulus helped him build no mercedes no porches just a humble man .If it were not for Jesus giving this man the ingenuity to make a film on how he was saved and the miracles he performed i would still be in a deep dark pit the Holy Spirit touched my heart and now i belong to Jesus Christ Hallelujah we love you Oom Angus continue being an instrumen for God.

Moemsie

Did an article from the link you provided. Thanks.

http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/09/11/palace-of-peace-and-reconciliation-located-in-astana-kazakhstan/

Just for interest sake -google Peace Palace Astana or `Palace of Peace and Accord…..`The World interfaith movement meets there in a perfect pyramid!

Paul

Are you saying that it doesn’t matter whether the person doing the praying is a Christian or not, or are you saying that it doesn’t matter whether the person being healed is a Christian or not?

It is important to remember that in Matthew 7: 22,23, which you mention here, Jesus is speaking about people who are not true Christians, but those who falsely try to cast out demons or heal using His name. Among these are the multitudes of false preachers and false healing ministries who will be turned away from the presence of the Lord.

Therefore, you are correct if you are saying that a Christian cannot cast out demons or perform healings, and claims by people to these things are false or attributable to their false gods. The circumstances and instances where these things actually do take place, are exclusively through the mercy of God, by His hand alone.

Jesus would never turn away true Christians. True Christians would also not be the workers of iniquity, who would be trying to cast out demons or perform healings on behalf of the Lord.

If this is what you are saying, Paul, then of course, you are in agreement with Biblical teaching.

To all

Jesus said on that day many would come and say,’Lord didn’t we cast out demons in your name didn’t we heal in your name’ yet He shall say depart from me you workers of iniquity I never knew you.

Based on this my opinion is that it doesn’t matter that one prayed for you in Jesus’ name and you got healed, it doesn’t count one bit that the person is a christian.