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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/06/27/have-you-or-a-loved-one-been-raised-from-the-dead/#comment-113779</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

Noooo problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113779"><p>John</p>
<p>Noooo problem.</p>
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		<title>By: John Chingford</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/06/27/have-you-or-a-loved-one-been-raised-from-the-dead/#comment-113676</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chingford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Deborah

I checked through that link above and read your excellent article but did not find answers to my specific questions. Therefore, I have now copied and pasted it to that newer article asking you to publish it, because maybe, just maybe one of your readers can answer my specific questions regarding the evidence of that miraculous potato crop, the first prayer meeting and the resurrected child.

Thanks and God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113676"><p>Hi Deborah</p>
<p>I checked through that link above and read your excellent article but did not find answers to my specific questions. Therefore, I have now copied and pasted it to that newer article asking you to publish it, because maybe, just maybe one of your readers can answer my specific questions regarding the evidence of that miraculous potato crop, the first prayer meeting and the resurrected child.</p>
<p>Thanks and God bless</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John 

Go to Gravatar.com and upload your own pic there and link it to your email address. When you come to blog here or anywhere and used your email address your uploaded pic will show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113407"><p>John </p>
<p>Go to Gravatar.com and upload your own pic there and link it to your email address. When you come to blog here or anywhere and used your email address your uploaded pic will show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

Right on bro.  He is false.  And has always been part of the New Apostolic Reformation or Apostolic Faith Mission here in SA.   There are other lies in his Faith like Potatoes book as well regarding where his &#039;adopted&#039; kids were born.  What about the person in his book who was struck by lightening and through his prayer, raised from the dead? Did the person go to hospital afterwards for a check up? hmm.

I&#039;ve done all my homework on him and his friends here:  http://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/1-people/angus-buchan-shalom-ministries/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113406"><p>John</p>
<p>Right on bro.  He is false.  And has always been part of the New Apostolic Reformation or Apostolic Faith Mission here in SA.   There are other lies in his Faith like Potatoes book as well regarding where his &#8216;adopted&#8217; kids were born.  What about the person in his book who was struck by lightening and through his prayer, raised from the dead? Did the person go to hospital afterwards for a check up? hmm.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done all my homework on him and his friends here:  <a href="http://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/1-people/angus-buchan-shalom-ministries/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/1-people/angus-buchan-shalom-ministries/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Chingford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Chingford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way. Faith is believing in what GOD has said, not what MAN says and not faith in an unsubstantiated miracle said to have happened. Faith is belief in what will happen before it is fulfilled. This forum is not discussing things BEFORE they happen but discussing things that have been stated as HAVE happened already.

So if God states in His Word what we should believe in and trust Him in, then faith arises in our hearts because GOD said it. If God speaks to our heart that He will heal us, then faith trusts in HIM to do it. It is not trusting in whether we have enough faith, ie faith in faith. If God heals us it is OBVIOUS and verifiable. Many say, &quot;I am healed, by faith I believe it&quot;. Still, if God heals (after a season of faith) you no longer need to believe because your faith has become CONCRETE.

Surely God does not mess about with us. He either heals us in an obvious clear way or you are not healed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113219"><p>By the way. Faith is believing in what GOD has said, not what MAN says and not faith in an unsubstantiated miracle said to have happened. Faith is belief in what will happen before it is fulfilled. This forum is not discussing things BEFORE they happen but discussing things that have been stated as HAVE happened already.</p>
<p>So if God states in His Word what we should believe in and trust Him in, then faith arises in our hearts because GOD said it. If God speaks to our heart that He will heal us, then faith trusts in HIM to do it. It is not trusting in whether we have enough faith, ie faith in faith. If God heals us it is OBVIOUS and verifiable. Many say, &#8220;I am healed, by faith I believe it&#8221;. Still, if God heals (after a season of faith) you no longer need to believe because your faith has become CONCRETE.</p>
<p>Surely God does not mess about with us. He either heals us in an obvious clear way or you are not healed.</p>
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		<title>By: John Chingford</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/06/27/have-you-or-a-loved-one-been-raised-from-the-dead/#comment-113213</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chingford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I don&#039;t like the miserable face icon, lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113213"><p>Hey, I don&#8217;t like the miserable face icon, lol</p>
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		<title>By: John Chingford</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/06/27/have-you-or-a-loved-one-been-raised-from-the-dead/#comment-113208</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chingford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding &quot;faith like potatoes&quot; Angus Buchan.

I watched the film (last night)and like most it was emotional. But then I listened to the &quot;real&quot; Buchan speak. Either his whole story is a complete fabrication (is there any real proof that those things happened) or it happened and he has since become infected by Word Faith doctrine. Here is a testimony from someone who knew him personally:

http://www.reformedtruth.co.za/docs/Faith%20Like%20Potatoes%20-%20Shaun%20Willcock.pdf

He now (maybe always has)seems to preach faith in FAITH rather than faith in Jesus. Now, he may well have started out well and those miracles may have happened, but I would like to see the proof first.

We are to be as wise as serpents, innocent and doves - NOT gullible.

Consider, had anyone heard of Angus Buchan before his book and movie were produced? If that amazing potato crop miracle really happened, wouldn&#039;t that story have spread like wild fire? It would have done! Here are my following observations, which tell me that something does not add up and smells fishy:

1) According to the film there were Thousands packed into a football stadium as he led farmers into prayer for their farms (is there any archive proof, btw, that this event happened?).

2) If that meeting took place, would not the name of Angus Buchan have spread? 
Especially after God provided the event to take place in the first place. Surely it did, but how many people had heard of him until his book was written?

3) Angus had declared that farmers should plant potatoes in faith because God would bring the rain. Many would have known of his own act of faith of planting the potatoes in dead soil and with no rain for 4 months, yet it produced a bumper harvest. Why are there no records of this event in news archives?

4) How is it that no-one knows about him or the miracles until reading about it in his book.

Has the miracles (especially the miraculous bumper harvest) been verified? I cannot find any verification on that miracle anywhere on the internet. Does anybody have a link which has a verifiable proof of the miracle BEFORE his book was written?

Incidentally, it may help my search if I know what year that miracle took place. I cannot find a record of what year. Does anybody know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_113208"><p>Regarding &#8220;faith like potatoes&#8221; Angus Buchan.</p>
<p>I watched the film (last night)and like most it was emotional. But then I listened to the &#8220;real&#8221; Buchan speak. Either his whole story is a complete fabrication (is there any real proof that those things happened) or it happened and he has since become infected by Word Faith doctrine. Here is a testimony from someone who knew him personally:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.reformedtruth.co.za/docs/Faith%20Like%20Potatoes%20-%20Shaun%20Willcock.pdf"  rel="nofollow">http://www.reformedtruth.co.za/docs/Faith%20Like%20Potatoes%20-%20Shaun%20Willcock.pdf</a></p>
<p>He now (maybe always has)seems to preach faith in FAITH rather than faith in Jesus. Now, he may well have started out well and those miracles may have happened, but I would like to see the proof first.</p>
<p>We are to be as wise as serpents, innocent and doves &#8211; NOT gullible.</p>
<p>Consider, had anyone heard of Angus Buchan before his book and movie were produced? If that amazing potato crop miracle really happened, wouldn&#8217;t that story have spread like wild fire? It would have done! Here are my following observations, which tell me that something does not add up and smells fishy:</p>
<p>1) According to the film there were Thousands packed into a football stadium as he led farmers into prayer for their farms (is there any archive proof, btw, that this event happened?).</p>
<p>2) If that meeting took place, would not the name of Angus Buchan have spread?<br />
Especially after God provided the event to take place in the first place. Surely it did, but how many people had heard of him until his book was written?</p>
<p>3) Angus had declared that farmers should plant potatoes in faith because God would bring the rain. Many would have known of his own act of faith of planting the potatoes in dead soil and with no rain for 4 months, yet it produced a bumper harvest. Why are there no records of this event in news archives?</p>
<p>4) How is it that no-one knows about him or the miracles until reading about it in his book.</p>
<p>Has the miracles (especially the miraculous bumper harvest) been verified? I cannot find any verification on that miracle anywhere on the internet. Does anybody have a link which has a verifiable proof of the miracle BEFORE his book was written?</p>
<p>Incidentally, it may help my search if I know what year that miracle took place. I cannot find a record of what year. Does anybody know?</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S

Firstly, FAITH is believing without SEEING.  Oh wait, there is no secondly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_59544"><p>S</p>
<p>Firstly, FAITH is believing without SEEING.  Oh wait, there is no secondly.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 00:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah - Would you believe even if you had proof?  Seeing is not believing.  Faith is believing and only Jesus is the author of that.  Without love we are nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_52817"><p>Deborah &#8211; Would you believe even if you had proof?  Seeing is not believing.  Faith is believing and only Jesus is the author of that.  Without love we are nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kip

&lt;blockquote&gt;Brother Jack Moore picked him up and brought him back into the car with us. We saw that he was dead. I looked at the little boy and thought I recognized him. Then I remembered that he was the little boy I had seen in the vision, who was eight or ten years old, with light brown hair and who was poorly dressed. I held him to my body and began to pray. Suddenly his life came back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Ohhh baloney!  Gee you will believe anything you are told eh?  Amazingly there is ALWAYS NEVER PROOF.  I wonder why... *grins*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_50170"><p>Kip</p>
<blockquote><p>Brother Jack Moore picked him up and brought him back into the car with us. We saw that he was dead. I looked at the little boy and thought I recognized him. Then I remembered that he was the little boy I had seen in the vision, who was eight or ten years old, with light brown hair and who was poorly dressed. I held him to my body and began to pray. Suddenly his life came back.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ohhh baloney!  Gee you will believe anything you are told eh?  Amazingly there is ALWAYS NEVER PROOF.  I wonder why&#8230; *grins*</p>
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