Wow!!! Kom ons identifiseer hulle duidelik. Hulle is die WIT Israeliete, Gert hulle. Daarteenoor kry ons ook die Hebreeuse beweging bestaande uit ekstreme regse SWART Israeliete. En hulle gebruik ook wesenlik dieselfde tipe demoniese argumente as die WIT Israeliete. Ek wens ek kon ‘n groot groep van elkeen bymekaar gooi in ‘n gimnasium!! Die Sataniese koninkryk sal so verdeeld wees wanneer hulle mekaar takel, dit sal nie kan bly voortbestaan nie!

Jy kry ook die Messiaanse Nasereense Israeliete wat glo dat die christendom inderdaad die tien “verlore” Noordelike Stamme verteenwoordig. Die Jode wat tans terugkeer Israel toe verteenwoordig eintlik hoofsaaklik die stam van Judah, maar ook van die ander stamme. Ons glo die 12 stamme sal almal op een of ander stadium vereenig. Hulle sal kom uit die bekeerde christendom, bekeerde Moslems, bekeerde Hindoes, bekeerde Afrikaners, bekeerde Duitsers, bekeerde Zulus, bekeerde Sothos, bekeerde Chinese, bekeerde wie ookal, ongeag kleur, ras of selfs bekeerde Australiese inboorlinge. Ons Vader het ALMAL uit een bloed geskape (Hand.17:26)
Oeps! Have I forgotten the English? Sorry!

Dit is hierdie 2de Exodus waarvan die profete ons vertel wat ‘n bonatuurlike wonderwerk gaan wees, selfs groter as die 1ste Exodus.

Ek waardeer Prof. Malan se siening en sy standpunt, dit is gefundeerd, maar ek verskil in nederigheid en baie groot ahava (liefde) van hom.
In Ezegiel word verwys na die Jerusalem stad met sy 12 hekke. In Openbaring presies dieselfde. Toegang tot die nuwe Jerusalem is slegs deur een van die 12 hekke waarop die name van die 12 stamme van Israel verskyn. Daar is nie ‘n hek vir die kerk of vir christene of vir moslems of vir hindoes of wie ookal nie. Jy MOET ‘n Israeliet wees om te kan ingaan. Maak nie saak welke stam nie, maar as jy ‘n Israeliet is, sal jy wel tot ‘n stam behoort.

En nou wil ek vir julle opregte gelowige christene, ongeag ras of kleur sê: “As jy in die Messias Yahshua glo, is jy die saad van Abraham en ‘n kind van die verbond. Dan is jy ‘n Israeliet, of jy dit wil weet of nie”.

YAHWEH se volk Israel was altyd bedoel om die kop te wees en nie die stert nie. YAHWEH het bedoel dat die res van die wêreld HOM sou leer ken deur Israel wat veronderstel was om ‘n nasie/volk van priesters vir Hom te moes wees. Hulle het egter hierdie roeping verwerp. Ander nasies moes by hulle aansluit en deel word van Israel. Die Hitiete wat ook van die nasies was wat vernietig moes word? Van hulle het aangesluit en Israeliete geword. Uriah? Koning Dawid het hom vir Batseba laat vermoor. Hy was ‘n Hittiet, ‘n offisier, wat in die Israelse weermag geveg het, maar hy het die godsdiens en kultuur van die Israel-volk aangeneem.

Hipoteties, wat wag op die gelowige christen as hy toustaan om die nuwe Jerusalem te betree? Prof. Malan, Elmarie, ens. ens. noem maar op. Hulle gaan ‘n hek soek om die stad binne te gaan. Hulle gaan hom nie kry nie! En dan gaan een van die “engele” vir hulle vra waarom hulle meen hulle toegang tot Jerusalem mag verkry. Dan gaan hulle antwoord “Omdat ons in die Messias Yahshua glo en Hom lief het!”
Daardie “engel” gaan so verbaas wees. “Magties mense, julle is dan mos Israeliete! Kom laat ons kyk tot watter stam julle behoort!”

Intussen het ek wat as christen reeds geglo het, ek is ‘n Israeliet, vroeg reeds al gaan vasstel tot watter stam ek behoort, en wag ek julle in en wys ek julle dalk rond, omdat ek so ‘n bietjie langer al tuis gemaak is!!

Dis in ligter luim, maar ek is dood ernstig. Dis waar ek verskil van Prof. Malan, en dis verseker nie wesenlik nie.

Ek dank die Vader dat ek en baie ander Messiaanse Nasereners die geleentheid het om Hom nou al reeds te wys dat ek Hom, YAHWEH die Vader en Yahshua Sy Seun en Messias, lief het deur Sy gebooie te doen. Ek doen Sy Gebooie nie omdat ek moet nie, maar omdat ek WIL. Yahshua het my vry gekoop van my Torahloosheid/sonde en uit dankbaarheid doen ek nou Sy Torah.

Waar is dit die maklikste om te begin? Die Tien Gebooie. Daar is net tien. Die eerste 4 is gefundeer op my alleroorheersende, allesoortreffende liefde vir die Vader. Die laaste 6 is gegrond op my liefde vir my medemens, my broer/suster in Yahshua, wit of swart of bruin of geel, maak nie saak nie.

Julle opregte christene, julle loop net die pad effens anders as die Nasereense Israeliete, MAAR ons gaan almal in deur die DEUR, die WEG, Yahshua die Lewende Torah.

Baie baie vrede vir julle.
NS
So hartseer om te meld dat van die WIT Israeliete hulself ook voorhou as Messiaanse Israeliete en die Hebreeuse Naam van die Vader en Sy Seun lings en regs misbruik in die verkondiging van hul sataniese leerstellinge. Eerste vraag aan ‘n Messiaanse Israeliet is: “Ek het ‘n swart broer in Yahshua, is hy vir jou aanvaarbaar as ‘n mede broer in Yashua die Messias? sal jy saam met hom aanbid of nie?” As hy begin um en ah en “ja maar Jahweh (let op die spelling) se volk is etnies suiwer” dan weet jy. Jy groet hom nie eers nie, loop net weg. So tragies.

Elmarie

I am just posting his stuff because his accusations/questions are rediculous – we know what and who he stands for but I like to help clear up a few things for him here and there.

Deborah (Discerning the World)

Just a reminder Gert comments here boerevryheid.co.za.

Excerpt form 19 May 2010 post he did:19th May 2010, 21:05

To Gert/ Henry en al die ander Israel visie groepe.

Illuminati…. ja julle ken dit goed.

As julle kan bewys dat almal van die Israel volk afkomstig is….. hoekom het ons dan ‘n Boerevolk nodig.
Hoekom moet daar dan ‘n Australia, Duitsland, Holland ens. wees.

Die vraag is hoekom…. ons is mos almal een volk.
Die Engelsman, Duitser, Hollander en wie ook al.

Dan kan hulle almal….. want jy sien ons almal kom van Israel af…. net een regering he.

Geen meer Boerevolk nie.

Hoekom so baie verskillende regeerings?

Laat ek dink…. nie ‘n slegte idee nie.

Maar kan ons maar die Boerevolk hou? Groot asb.

Hahahaha…… ek het genoeg al gepraat oor die illuminati….
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Gert answer to Bravo:
Ai Bravo, hoe akkuraat kan jy ook tog nie wees nie.

Die vraag is hoekom…. ons is mos almal een volk.
Die Engelsman, Duitser, Hollander en wie ook al.

Ja hulle is ook Israeliete in verstrooiing en ons kom uit al daardie nasies uit, dus uit Europa en is nou die jongste deel van Vader se Volk hier aan die suidpunt van Afrika.
Duitsland se suiwer mense is uit die stam van Juda net soos Engeland. Koningin Elizabeth is ‘n suiwer afstammeling van koning Dawid maar vervalle in die sisteem van die Jesuiete en vrymesselaars vas gevang in die NWO.
Tragies maar dit is so!
Saul en Salomo moes kies en het verkeerd gekies.

Dawid en Abraham se harte was suiwer en daarom as regverdiges gereken.
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19th May 2010, 21:13

Ek het ‘n wonderlike openbaring oor die egskeiding ontvang van wie die vrou (Volk) reeds byna 2500 jaar gelede van Vader geskei is agter ander gode (satan) aan, daarom die verwerping van die Volk deur Vader onder al die nasies in, in verstrooiing tot vandag toe.

Nou sal net die wat hulself werklik suiwer van alle onreinheid en vuilheid, die voorreg hê om voor Hom te staan as sy BRUID sonder vlek of rimpel. (Nie ‘n kerk nie)
As hy sonde gaan toelaat, draai Hy op sy woord en Hy kan nie lieg nie.
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19th May 2010, 21:44
Bravo, nee dit gaan vir my nie oor ‘n Israel Visie groepe nie. Baie van die groepe het Vader se Volk groot skade berokken weens ook weer ‘n gebrek aan kennis of hoorsê wat ander sê en nie self ondersoek ingestel nie. So ook met ‘n haat in hul harte, selfs teenoor hul eie volksgenote. Tragies maar ja, dit is so!

Die hele skrif en nie net gedeeltes daarvan nie, is vir ons gegee tot lering, teregwysing en onderwysing in die hele waarheid.
Dus sal geen jota of titteltjie ooit in die boek (Bybel) verander voordat al hierdie dinge net vir sy uitverkore Volk gebeur nie.
Net die wie se name in die boek van die lewe van die Lam geskrywe staan.

Hulle wat weier om die sonde te versaak, se name sal uit die boek uitgewis word.
http://www.boerevryheid.co.za/forums/showthread.php?p=333244

Deborah (Discerning the World)

Gert has problems and we will pray for him. Thank for sharing his email Debs

Maybe Gert has his own Bible he wrote and is trying to promote it. I wonder what he reads as a Bible?

Im jus doing my CR here. lol

What is Gert’s point anyway. Yikes

Gert van kraayenburg latest email to DTW – The lies of the NKJV used by you!

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from Gert van Kraayenburg
to DiscerningTheWorld
date 1 June 2010 18:53
subject The lies of the NKJV used by you!

Not even the NKJV alone, but most and maybe all the new translations either english or afrikaans with a subtle deception of lies.

http://www.letgodbetrue.com/bible/scripture/new-king-james-version.htm?gclid=CPnYraan_6ECFdpo4wodaGDIDg
http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html
http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjv.asp
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/nkjvdead.htm
http://www.bible-researcher.com/nkjv.html

Gert van Kraayenburg

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from DiscerningTheWorld
to Gert van Kraayenburg
date 2 June 2010 09:45
subject Re: The lies of the NKJV used by you!

Gert

Give it up. My interpreter is the Holy Spirit. And we all know that all translations have little things wrong with them. So what’s your point? Nothing. The Word of God stands as it is. If you want to find fault because men tried to destroy it then go find yourself another book that will appease your conscience..

But because the Bible is a spiritual book that can only be correctly interpreted by born again Christians because of the Holy Spirit – your arguments will forever fall flat.

DTW
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Barland

Now prepare yourselves for the last push, the last great move. God we pray for revival. We need your Holy Spirit again. We need Jesus to again speak to His church and we need the great and unfathomable Mercy and Grace of GOD our Father to be made evident in this last days.
As we pray and hope for revival the devil will now push just as hard, the same as he did with the beginning of the 20th century with the beginning of world war 1 and later again 2.

Here is a thought let us organise a day or two of fasting and praying. Let us call a solemn assembly and throw ourselves at GOD’s mercy and call unto him.

Um, Barland. There is no revival. There wont be a REAL revival. The only revivals you will ever see will be fake. The Holy Spirit never left as he abides IN all born again Christians. The Bible is JESUS CHRIST SPEAKING to the Church because Jesus Christ is the WORD – He NEVER STOPPED SPEAKING TO US. The Holy Spirit will remain on earth IN born again Christians until He is removed (The Restrainer is removed)- When the Holy Spirit goes, we go with Him (the rapture).

Will times get tough? Oh yes! But I am protected by Jesus. He said He would protect us in these last days and He will.

Kirk Cameron and all those are NAR. Just because people highlight the plight of martyrdom and human rights atrocities does not make them (the ministry) genuine Christians. Also remember that today Catholics are also considered to be Christian. Never the less murder of anyone is horrendous. Satan’s aim is to kill everyone. Kill Christians, kill people of every faith. Abort millions of babies, helpless babies! We pray for genuine Christians around the world that they are kept safe.

Wonderful response
thx guys.
1 Corinthians
1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
1Co 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The mystery of God revealed in us.

Now DTW the spirit of the anti-christ is already at work in the world and he is about to be revealed. The false religion is gaining ground. This false religion is what Angus and all others are promoting. Soon laws are to be passed declaring us as enemies of the state and world peace. I am ready to suffer.

Also as a point of info to all our brothers and sisters:- Any religion or sect or cult or new wave that does not preach Christ crucified and resurrected is of the Devil. They will preach wonderful sounding words which will lead many astray and straight into the arms of the devil.
Now prepare yourselves for the last push, the last great move. God we pray for revival. We need your Holy Spirit again. We need Jesus to again speak to His church and we need the great and unfathomable Mercy and Grace of GOD our Father to be made evident in this last days.
As we pray and hope for revival the devil will now push just as hard, the same as he did with the beginning of the 20th century with the beginning of world war 1 and later again 2.

Here is a thought let us organise a day or two of fasting and praying. Let us call a solemn assembly and throw ourselves at GOD’s mercy and call unto him.

let us also remember the 176 000 or so martyrs who died last year alone at the hands of the enemies of GOD. God be our strength and shield and our salavation. Keep us from our enemies and the enemy (satan)

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WORLDNETDAILY – By Bob Unruh – April 20, 2010
A new ministry partnership has launched a campaign to raise awareness of the fact that an estimated 176,000 Christians around the world were martyred – killed for their faith – in a one-year period from the middle of 2008 to the middle of 2009.

That’s 482 deaths per day, one every three minutes.

Martyrdom didn’t go away with the Middle Ages, according to reports from Open Doors USA, which now has combined efforts with actor Kirk Cameron of “The Way of the Master” ministryas well as evangelist Ray Comfort of Living Waters ministry to focus on those who are being persecuted for their faith. …

Deborah, you nailed it again. Just how far can this apostasy go before our Lord calls it to a halt? It has invaded places that I never dreamed it would. Places that still do teach truth and defend it are scarce as hen’s teeth and they stand as little islands threatened by waves of popular opinion and half-truths and sugar-coated lies. It is like trying to stand up in the midst of a hurricane. Their is such a delusion going on – like Invasion of the Soul Snatchers – a spiritual Twilight Zone.

Oh and there are false teachers against Calvinism too. Just because someone is anti-Calvinist does not make them kosher. And for some unknown reason if you are not Calvinist you are Armenian and vice versa. That’s a load of nonsense too. It takes 1 little twisting of a sentense to destory the entire meaning of who Jesus Christ IS.

You even have people asking ‘Oh but which Christ are you speaking about?’, now because the person asked that question now it means they must be ok. And now people think because they now know there are 2 ‘Christs’ and correct you ‘making sure you are speaking about the real Jesus and not the anti-Christ’ then they must actually really believe in the real Jesus. Asking someone ‘which Jesus’ does mean the person believes in Jesus Christ.

There is an opposite or counterfeit to every truth. There is also a counterfeit lie to every lie. Like 2 people havig a conversation with eachother and each one constantly tells eachother lies based on lies – but they honestly think they are telling the truth. A gazillion lies and they all sound pretty much like the truth.

Barland

That’s it. Well said.

And you know what’s scarier.

Angus Buchan and friends are all trying to replace the Jews (in their own perverted way)

Gert and the lost tribes of Israel are all trying to replace the Jews (in their own perverted way)

The left wing are all trying to replace the Jews (in their own perverted way)

Arabs are all tying to replace the Jews (in their own perverted way)

Roman Catholics HATE Jews and are trying to take over Jerusalem (in their own perverted way)

Communism hates Jews and are trying to take over Jerusalem (in their own perverted way)

Every ‘christian’ cult type movement out there are all aiming to be Jews so they can claim Jerusalem for themselves (in their own perverted way)

Notice how Word of Faith teachers and the Apostolics and Prophetics have all at least once gone to Jerusalem and preached from some location on TV or hosted trips and visits and cruises; because they believe Jerusalem belongs to them and these people going to come in like locusts (Joel’s Army from Joel 2) and cause nothing but destruction.

There has to be a false peace is Israel in order for all false religions to move in and try take what they think is their rightful claim to ‘God’s Holy Land’.

There are so many people out there who actually think they are currently one of the two end time witnesses. It’s a joke. William Branham though he was, That Armstrong guy who has gone and done all this research on the 10 lost tribes even thinks he is one of the end time witnesses and he has thousands of people who believe his utter rubbish.

3 years ago I told people to watch and see how the Word of Faithers, Apostolics and Prophetics start to merge with and into other religions and they all want peace. And most people told me I was wrong. Well…

I told people that Angus Buchan was Emergent and I was shot down… Well…

I told people that people caught in WoF and NAR would land up in the Emergent camp… “NEVER” I was told… Well..

I told people that people caught in the Emergent camp would land up in NAR – ‘Impssible, Emergent is worse than NAR, people would clearly see there is a problem” I was told… Well…

I told people that WoF would merge with Emergent – ‘Rubbish, they are completely 2 different movements with opposing ideas’ I was told… Well…

I told people that the prosperity gospel would sooner or later take a beating as the blame is laid at their door step in order to bring in the idea of sharing aka socialism. “Socialism, you are nuts?” I was told… Well…

I told people that people would start seeking less ‘signs and wonders’ and weird stuff and this would push them into another movement; a mixture between the Emergent movement and ‘something else’ – at the time I didn’t realise this something else would be Calvinism. Again, I was told I can’t say stuff without proof. What on earth? Yeah, whatever!

There would also be the people who would leave the WoF, NAR and Emergence completely and just go back to the Bible (at that stage I didn’t realise ‘going back to the bible’ would mean going back to Calvinism) – Must say no one argued with me on this one, because ‘going back to the bible’ is well… ‘biblical’ talk.

Now, I see that ‘great ministers’ who always spoke of themselves as ‘men of the book’ are Emergents in disguise (Emergent = Roman Catholic and Calvinism = Roman Catholic)

The ridiculous thing is Prosperity and Socialism will always go hand in hand. Someone has to make the money (or steal it) from the workers (the ones who will always be sharing).

Then you have the charismatic Catholics too…

And Hindu Christians and Buddhist Christians and Muslim Christians

religion is now a culture (a way of life) and not a religion so you can be a Hindu Christian.

Oh and then you have the anti-everything groups who just hate everyone – these are the ones who will probably make it right to the top when it comes to running the world – they think the earth belongs to them, they are the closest to Lucifer and do his bidding and honestly think they will reign with him on earth. They already have all the money all they need is a world of people who will work for them and just share the little they have and if you don’t comply well, then they just kill you.

and, and, and, and…

And they all want Jerusalem for themselves which means the REAL JEWS have to get out. Satan has to seat himself in Jerusalem as this is God’s land.

Mel Gibson who made the PASSION movie is a Jesuit. Also amazing how Mel Gibson’s name was found in the ‘Bible Code’ (Cabala) as being God’s faithful servant because he made this movie to show the world that Jesus is ‘THE CHRIST’. Yes, his ‘christ’ not Jesus Christ the Son of God.

Amazing in all movies made of Jesus at the end they make a big point of showing that it was the Jews who killed Jesus. And as born again Christians we know this is not true. God buised His Own Son.
Why is it always shown that the Jews kill Jesus- because this is what is held against them in a perverted way. The world hates Jesus Christ BUT will consistently blame the JEWS for killing Him. Hitler had a team running around searching for the Holy Grail (a load of rubbish anyhow) while killing Jews.

Currently there are stats showing that the ‘christian’ populaton is growing in Israel – in otherwords converts from Judaism to Christianity. But which ‘Christ’? To use another example, there are stats that in China the growth rate of people converting to Christianity is up in leaps and bounds. But which ‘Christ’ are they converting too?

Jesus will return soon to rapture the Church, anyone born again no matter what colour, nationality, race, language. If you are a child of God you will go home and be with Him forever. Time is seriously running out. The rate at which this false christian faith is taking over is astronomical. All you have to do is follow this ‘new Jesus’ incorporate him/Satan in disguise into your daily life and you are sorted, then you become a little god, a mindless zombie and just follow THE anti-CHRIST up the hill and over the cliff.

Jesus said WATCH and pray. All my results are pureply based on analysis and watching how each religious movement ‘moves’. Sometimes is predictable other times it’s not and even I get surprised. But it’s exciting because the faster they move the closer born again Christians will see Jesus Christ face to face when He comes to fetch us out of this mess.