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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/30/news-desk-by-bobs-your-anchor-may-2010/#comment-23425</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip Kelly 
&lt;blockquote&gt;This is the Zeitgheist, the spirit of the Age.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You may read the complete article here : Can You Really Be &#039;Slain in the Spirit&#039;?
http://www.bcnn6.com/2010/05/can-you-really-be-slain-in-the-spirit.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_23425"><p>Philip Kelly </p>
<blockquote><p>This is the Zeitgheist, the spirit of the Age.</p></blockquote>
<p>You may read the complete article here : Can You Really Be &#8216;Slain in the Spirit&#8217;?<br />
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.bcnn6.com/2010/05/can-you-really-be-slain-in-the-spirit.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.bcnn6.com/2010/05/can-you-really-be-slain-in-the-spirit.html</a></p>
<p>It seems that posts link is not working any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/30/news-desk-by-bobs-your-anchor-may-2010/#comment-23414</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elmarie wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“Following my column last week, I have been asked by someone to write something about the phenomenon of being ’slain in the Spirit,’ which we often see being performed by televangelists. It is a term associated with the practice of the ’laying on of hands,’ and in many of these services we find people falling down when they are touched or prayed over by ’men of God.’ They claim that it is the power of God’s Spirit coming upon them that causes them to fall down.
However, some of these people are easily susceptible to suggestion, some are pushed, some fake it, while others are under a form of hypnotic spell. They all fall backwards and there are people in position to catch them before they hit the floor. Some even go into a sort of epileptic fit with jerky movements of the legs and hands. Not too divinely elegant! In fact, one would have thought that if indeed the Holy Spirit truly caused them to fall, He would also ensure that they would not injure themselves and that they would fall, shall we say, ’softly’! .” ♦ –Is the opposition really united?–&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is the Zeitgheist, the spirit of the Age.

It would be a change if they fell forward .In the Word of God, they usually fell forward on their faces in reverence and awe.

Example Isaiah : Depoart from me O Lord for I am a man of unclean lips</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_23414"><p>Elmarie wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Following my column last week, I have been asked by someone to write something about the phenomenon of being ’slain in the Spirit,’ which we often see being performed by televangelists. It is a term associated with the practice of the ’laying on of hands,’ and in many of these services we find people falling down when they are touched or prayed over by ’men of God.’ They claim that it is the power of God’s Spirit coming upon them that causes them to fall down.<br />
However, some of these people are easily susceptible to suggestion, some are pushed, some fake it, while others are under a form of hypnotic spell. They all fall backwards and there are people in position to catch them before they hit the floor. Some even go into a sort of epileptic fit with jerky movements of the legs and hands. Not too divinely elegant! In fact, one would have thought that if indeed the Holy Spirit truly caused them to fall, He would also ensure that they would not injure themselves and that they would fall, shall we say, ’softly’! .” ♦ –Is the opposition really united?–</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the Zeitgheist, the spirit of the Age.</p>
<p>It would be a change if they fell forward .In the Word of God, they usually fell forward on their faces in reverence and awe.</p>
<p>Example Isaiah : Depoart from me O Lord for I am a man of unclean lips</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/30/news-desk-by-bobs-your-anchor-may-2010/#comment-11289</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The goals for the meetings were three-fold: to listen to God for the global evangelical Church by studying Ephesians inductively, to develop a community of leaders and teachers marked by the values expressed in Ephesians, and to lay the foundation for an Ephesians book/DVD resource to be produced after Cape Town 2010. Ephesians 1 speaks prophetically to the prosperity gospel common in Africa, Latin America, and North America. David and Calisto noted that the Church in Africa needs the reassurance from this text that Christ is not an equal and opposite force to the demonic and that God is still in control, even when we suffer. The metanarrative of God’s good purposes described by Paul is desperately needed in Europe and North America, where a sense of grounding truth has been lost. Ramez commented that Middle Eastern Christians are often so concerned about their own problems that they don’t have a world vision. Ephesians 1 lifts our eyes to see far beyond ourselves and to refocus on God’s plan and will. .” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lausanneworldpulse.com/lausannereports/1299/06-2010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Ephesians Expositors Meet in Cairo By Lindsay Olesberg June / July 2010 –&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_11289"><p>“The goals for the meetings were three-fold: to listen to God for the global evangelical Church by studying Ephesians inductively, to develop a community of leaders and teachers marked by the values expressed in Ephesians, and to lay the foundation for an Ephesians book/DVD resource to be produced after Cape Town 2010. Ephesians 1 speaks prophetically to the prosperity gospel common in Africa, Latin America, and North America. David and Calisto noted that the Church in Africa needs the reassurance from this text that Christ is not an equal and opposite force to the demonic and that God is still in control, even when we suffer. The metanarrative of God’s good purposes described by Paul is desperately needed in Europe and North America, where a sense of grounding truth has been lost. Ramez commented that Middle Eastern Christians are often so concerned about their own problems that they don’t have a world vision. Ephesians 1 lifts our eyes to see far beyond ourselves and to refocus on God’s plan and will. .” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.lausanneworldpulse.com/lausannereports/1299/06-2010"  rel="nofollow">–Ephesians Expositors Meet in Cairo By Lindsay Olesberg June / July 2010 –</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/30/news-desk-by-bobs-your-anchor-may-2010/#comment-11205</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“As the number of bank failures in the United States continues to accelerate, many analysts are warning that we could soon see unprecedented changes in the U.S. banking industry. In fact, there are some economists that are warning that we could be about to witness the greatest banking consolidation in U.S. history. As dozens of small and medium size banks have failed, the megabanks have systematically been gobbling up larger and larger slices of market share. In fact, if current trends continue, it doesn&#039;t take much imagination to foresee a future where the entire U.S. banking industry has been consolidated down to between 5 and 10 &quot;superbanks&quot;. .” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2010/May28/2814.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Superbanks May Rule America–&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_11205"><p>“As the number of bank failures in the United States continues to accelerate, many analysts are warning that we could soon see unprecedented changes in the U.S. banking industry. In fact, there are some economists that are warning that we could be about to witness the greatest banking consolidation in U.S. history. As dozens of small and medium size banks have failed, the megabanks have systematically been gobbling up larger and larger slices of market share. In fact, if current trends continue, it doesn&#8217;t take much imagination to foresee a future where the entire U.S. banking industry has been consolidated down to between 5 and 10 &#8220;superbanks&#8221;. .” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2010/May28/2814.html"  rel="nofollow">–Superbanks May Rule America–</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should get kobus to come and lay hands on him - zap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_10546"><p>Should get kobus to come and lay hands on him &#8211; zap!</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“debkafile&#039;s military sources report Israeli concerns that Turkey may not confine itself to strong diplomatic retaliation for the Israel Navy&#039;s seizure Monday, May 31, of the Marmora, the Turkish vessel leading the flotilla for breaking the Gaza blockade and resort to military action along with the Iranian-backed Hizballah and Hamas. A statement from Ankara threatened &quot;unprecedented and incalculable&quot; reprisals, following which the Turkish chief of staff Gen. Ilker Basbug was recalled urgently to Ankara from a visit to Egypt. Greece has since halted its joint exercise with Israel in protest against the naval action.

debkafile reports from Ankara that the Turkish government is planning to continue pounding the Israeli blockade with more flotillas and have them escorted by Turkish warships and fighter jets. Israel merchant vessels moored outside Ashdod port have been instructed to sail into port and take shelter in case of missile attacks from the Gaza Strip against Ashdod and Ashkelon.

Monday morning, Israeli warplanes headed west over the Mediterranean in support of the still ongoing Israeli commando operation aboard the Turkish Marmora, the scene of violent clashes between Israeli troops and the 600 &quot;peace activists,&quot; some of them armed. Ankara later reported 15 dead aboard the vessel.

Israeli army spokesman, Col. Avi Beneyahu, called the incident &quot;an act of terror on the high seas.&quot; Far from being a humanitarian mission, the flotilla was sponsored personally by Turkish prime minister Recep Erdogan to break the Israeli blockade on Gaza and permit arms supplies and terrorist to reach the Strip unrestricted. It aimed at provoking a widely publicized international incident with fatalities and showing Israel using strong-arm tactics against unarmed peace-lovers..” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2010/May28/2820.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Israel braces for Turkish, Hizballah, Hamas reprisals after Flotilla Killing

http://debka.com/
–&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_10486"><p>“debkafile&#8217;s military sources report Israeli concerns that Turkey may not confine itself to strong diplomatic retaliation for the Israel Navy&#8217;s seizure Monday, May 31, of the Marmora, the Turkish vessel leading the flotilla for breaking the Gaza blockade and resort to military action along with the Iranian-backed Hizballah and Hamas. A statement from Ankara threatened &#8220;unprecedented and incalculable&#8221; reprisals, following which the Turkish chief of staff Gen. Ilker Basbug was recalled urgently to Ankara from a visit to Egypt. Greece has since halted its joint exercise with Israel in protest against the naval action.</p>
<p>debkafile reports from Ankara that the Turkish government is planning to continue pounding the Israeli blockade with more flotillas and have them escorted by Turkish warships and fighter jets. Israel merchant vessels moored outside Ashdod port have been instructed to sail into port and take shelter in case of missile attacks from the Gaza Strip against Ashdod and Ashkelon.</p>
<p>Monday morning, Israeli warplanes headed west over the Mediterranean in support of the still ongoing Israeli commando operation aboard the Turkish Marmora, the scene of violent clashes between Israeli troops and the 600 &#8220;peace activists,&#8221; some of them armed. Ankara later reported 15 dead aboard the vessel.</p>
<p>Israeli army spokesman, Col. Avi Beneyahu, called the incident &#8220;an act of terror on the high seas.&#8221; Far from being a humanitarian mission, the flotilla was sponsored personally by Turkish prime minister Recep Erdogan to break the Israeli blockade on Gaza and permit arms supplies and terrorist to reach the Strip unrestricted. It aimed at provoking a widely publicized international incident with fatalities and showing Israel using strong-arm tactics against unarmed peace-lovers..” &diams; <a href="http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2010/May28/2820.html" rel="nofollow">–Israel braces for Turkish, Hizballah, Hamas reprisals after Flotilla Killing</p>
<p></a><a target="_blank" href="http://debka.com/"  rel="nofollow">http://debka.com/</a><br />
–</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Six months after the UN climate summit in Copenhagen ended in a shambles of mistrust and vitriol, with an accord widely agreed to be lacking in ambition negotiated in backrooms by a handful of nations, the conversation restarts on Monday in Bonn under an atmosphere that has hardly improved since the winter.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://euobserver.com/9/30170&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–UN climate talks re-start amid widespread pessimism, mistrust–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Armed with rifles that could shoot paintballs – which can hurt but not kill – the soldiers landed on the ship and immediately came under attack by dozens of activists armed with knives, bats and metal pipes. Activists grabbed soldiers and tried to hold them hostage, stripping them of their helmets and equipment. One of the soldiers tried to protect a commando who was being lynched by a group of activists. They were instructed by the flotilla commander to refrain from using their sidearm unless their lives were at risk” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177040&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Navy commandos:‘They came for war’–&lt;/a&gt;

    “&quot;Once an individual claims any kind of state subsidy, his privacy is forfeit: the humblest benefits recipient could confirm that,&quot; writes Gerald Warner. Simples really, so it is quite amazing that a politician like David Laws, slated as the &quot;pocket genius&quot; by The Guardian, couldn&#039;t see it. But then, he lives in the bubble and, as we keep saying, in the bubble they are blind.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/05/you-cant-fault-logic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–You can&#039;t fault the logic–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Demonstrators throwing soldier off of boat.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/video-flotilla-jihadists-attacking-idf-soldiers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Video: Flotilla jihadists attacking IDF soldiers–&lt;/a&gt;

    “In the information battlespace, the jihadis can count on the complicity of the subdued, Islamophiliac press. They can physically attack Israeli troops and count on the corrupt media to package any act of Israeli self-defense as an aggression. Then this repackaging will lead to international condemnation, United Nations Security Council resolutions, and further delegitimization of Israel.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/geller-the-jihad-flotilla-and-the-media-war-against-israel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Geller: The Jihad Flotilla and the Media War Against Israel–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Washington&#039;s unprecedented backing for a UN resolution for a nuclear-free Middle East that singles out Israel has both angered and deeply worried the Jewish state although officials are cagey about openly criticising their biggest ally. The resolution adopted by the United Nations on Friday calls on Israel to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and urges it to open its facilities to inspection.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/us-backs-resolution-to-disarm-israel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–U.S. backs resolution to disarm Israel–&lt;/a&gt;

    “A incident provoked by genocide-minded jihadists gains traction among those anxious to demonize Israel and see those jihadists as victims. &quot;Mideast: Flotilla; Israel&#039;s Crimes Could Lead To War, Syria,&quot;” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/syria-and-lebanon-move-in-for-the-kill-invite-the-international-community-to-take-measures-as-soon-a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Syria and Lebanon move in for the kill, &quot;invite the international community to take measures as soon as possible to end Israel&#039;s crimes, which could lead to war in the Middle East&quot;–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Palestinian jihad propaganda -- as we have come to expect from AP. Nothing here, of course, about how jihad flotilla participants were celebrating a massacre of Jews by Islam&#039;s prophet Muhammad.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/ap-israels-self-defense-against-jihad-flotilla-tarnishes-its-image-notes-with-skepticism-that-jihad.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–AP: Israel&#039;s self-defense against jihad flotilla &quot;tarnishes its image,&quot; notes with skepticism that jihad flotilla attacked first–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Throwing bottles at the Israeli consulate in a protest that appears to be as orchestrated as the jihad flotilla itself. Do these protesters even know that the jihad flotilla participants were chanting an Arabic rhyme celebrating Muhammad&#039;s massacre of the Jews at Khaybar? The whole thing was a set-up. ” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/jihad-flotilla-outrage-5000-anti-israel-protestors-in-istanbul.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Jihad flotilla outrage: 5,000 anti-Israel protesters in Istanbul decry Israel&#039;s self-defense–&lt;/a&gt;

    “As I explain in my book The Truth About Muhammad, Muhammad led a Muslim force against the Khaybar oasis, which was inhabited by Jews -- many of whom he had previously exiled from Medina. When he did so, he was not responding to any provocation.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/gaza-jihad-flotilla-participants-chanted-islamic-battle-cry-invoking-muhammads-massacre-of-jews.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Gaza jihad flotilla participants chanted Islamic battle cry invoking Muhammad&#039;s massacre of Jews–&lt;/a&gt;

    “There was no humanitarian crisis and nobody is dying with hunger in the Gaza Strip, where the real problem is the fact that control of the territory is in the hands of a terrorist organisation (Hamas), said Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak today.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/barak-no-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-and-israel-will-defend-itself.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Barak: No humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and Israel will defend itself–&lt;/a&gt;

    “The organizers of the Palestine Flotilla to Gaza consisted of some of the worst global terror groups including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, al-Qaeda and their fund raisers the Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation. What made this Palestine PR stunt or electronic Jihad exercise even more barbaric was the blatant use of volunteers on the ship who had good and true humanitarian intentions. Some of these humanitarian volunteers were unaware that they were being used by the terror group Hamas as Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation used both diplomats and volunteers from the UK, the US, Sweden, France, Germany and other countries as human shields as Hamas attacked a peaceful IDF boarding force with guns, knives and clubs.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/hamas-gaza-jihad-flotilla-organizers-not-humanitarian-wanted-massacre-for-propaganda-purposes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Hamas Gaza jihad flotilla organizers not humanitarian, wanted massacre for propaganda purposes–&lt;/a&gt;

    “The international condemnations are already raining down upon Israel, the only nation in the world that is not allowed to defend itself. If we had an American President (that is, one who was primarily concerned with upholding the best interests of the United States), rather than a Post-American President (that is, a doctrinaire socialist internationalist), he would be speaking out strongly in favor of Israel today. ” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/idf-officer-on-gaza-flotilla-it-was-like-a-well-planned-lynch-these-people-were-anything-but-peace-a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–IDF officer on Gaza flotilla: &quot;It was like a well-planned lynch. These people were anything but peace activists.&quot;–&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_10480"><p>“EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS &#8211; Six months after the UN climate summit in Copenhagen ended in a shambles of mistrust and vitriol, with an accord widely agreed to be lacking in ambition negotiated in backrooms by a handful of nations, the conversation restarts on Monday in Bonn under an atmosphere that has hardly improved since the winter.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://euobserver.com/9/30170"  rel="nofollow">–UN climate talks re-start amid widespread pessimism, mistrust–</a></p>
<p>    “Armed with rifles that could shoot paintballs – which can hurt but not kill – the soldiers landed on the ship and immediately came under attack by dozens of activists armed with knives, bats and metal pipes. Activists grabbed soldiers and tried to hold them hostage, stripping them of their helmets and equipment. One of the soldiers tried to protect a commando who was being lynched by a group of activists. They were instructed by the flotilla commander to refrain from using their sidearm unless their lives were at risk” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177040"  rel="nofollow">–Navy commandos:‘They came for war’–</a></p>
<p>    “&#8221;Once an individual claims any kind of state subsidy, his privacy is forfeit: the humblest benefits recipient could confirm that,&#8221; writes Gerald Warner. Simples really, so it is quite amazing that a politician like David Laws, slated as the &#8220;pocket genius&#8221; by The Guardian, couldn&#8217;t see it. But then, he lives in the bubble and, as we keep saying, in the bubble they are blind.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/05/you-cant-fault-logic.html"  rel="nofollow">–You can&#8217;t fault the logic–</a></p>
<p>    “Demonstrators throwing soldier off of boat.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/video-flotilla-jihadists-attacking-idf-soldiers.html"  rel="nofollow">–Video: Flotilla jihadists attacking IDF soldiers–</a></p>
<p>    “In the information battlespace, the jihadis can count on the complicity of the subdued, Islamophiliac press. They can physically attack Israeli troops and count on the corrupt media to package any act of Israeli self-defense as an aggression. Then this repackaging will lead to international condemnation, United Nations Security Council resolutions, and further delegitimization of Israel.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/geller-the-jihad-flotilla-and-the-media-war-against-israel.html"  rel="nofollow">–Geller: The Jihad Flotilla and the Media War Against Israel–</a></p>
<p>    “Washington&#8217;s unprecedented backing for a UN resolution for a nuclear-free Middle East that singles out Israel has both angered and deeply worried the Jewish state although officials are cagey about openly criticising their biggest ally. The resolution adopted by the United Nations on Friday calls on Israel to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and urges it to open its facilities to inspection.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/us-backs-resolution-to-disarm-israel.html"  rel="nofollow">–U.S. backs resolution to disarm Israel–</a></p>
<p>    “A incident provoked by genocide-minded jihadists gains traction among those anxious to demonize Israel and see those jihadists as victims. &#8220;Mideast: Flotilla; Israel&#8217;s Crimes Could Lead To War, Syria,&#8221;” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/syria-and-lebanon-move-in-for-the-kill-invite-the-international-community-to-take-measures-as-soon-a.html"  rel="nofollow">–Syria and Lebanon move in for the kill, &#8220;invite the international community to take measures as soon as possible to end Israel&#8217;s crimes, which could lead to war in the Middle East&#8221;–</a></p>
<p>    “Palestinian jihad propaganda &#8212; as we have come to expect from AP. Nothing here, of course, about how jihad flotilla participants were celebrating a massacre of Jews by Islam&#8217;s prophet Muhammad.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/ap-israels-self-defense-against-jihad-flotilla-tarnishes-its-image-notes-with-skepticism-that-jihad.html"  rel="nofollow">–AP: Israel&#8217;s self-defense against jihad flotilla &#8220;tarnishes its image,&#8221; notes with skepticism that jihad flotilla attacked first–</a></p>
<p>    “Throwing bottles at the Israeli consulate in a protest that appears to be as orchestrated as the jihad flotilla itself. Do these protesters even know that the jihad flotilla participants were chanting an Arabic rhyme celebrating Muhammad&#8217;s massacre of the Jews at Khaybar? The whole thing was a set-up. ” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/jihad-flotilla-outrage-5000-anti-israel-protestors-in-istanbul.html"  rel="nofollow">–Jihad flotilla outrage: 5,000 anti-Israel protesters in Istanbul decry Israel&#8217;s self-defense–</a></p>
<p>    “As I explain in my book The Truth About Muhammad, Muhammad led a Muslim force against the Khaybar oasis, which was inhabited by Jews &#8212; many of whom he had previously exiled from Medina. When he did so, he was not responding to any provocation.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/gaza-jihad-flotilla-participants-chanted-islamic-battle-cry-invoking-muhammads-massacre-of-jews.html"  rel="nofollow">–Gaza jihad flotilla participants chanted Islamic battle cry invoking Muhammad&#8217;s massacre of Jews–</a></p>
<p>    “There was no humanitarian crisis and nobody is dying with hunger in the Gaza Strip, where the real problem is the fact that control of the territory is in the hands of a terrorist organisation (Hamas), said Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak today.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/barak-no-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-and-israel-will-defend-itself.html"  rel="nofollow">–Barak: No humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and Israel will defend itself–</a></p>
<p>    “The organizers of the Palestine Flotilla to Gaza consisted of some of the worst global terror groups including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, al-Qaeda and their fund raisers the Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation. What made this Palestine PR stunt or electronic Jihad exercise even more barbaric was the blatant use of volunteers on the ship who had good and true humanitarian intentions. Some of these humanitarian volunteers were unaware that they were being used by the terror group Hamas as Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation used both diplomats and volunteers from the UK, the US, Sweden, France, Germany and other countries as human shields as Hamas attacked a peaceful IDF boarding force with guns, knives and clubs.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/hamas-gaza-jihad-flotilla-organizers-not-humanitarian-wanted-massacre-for-propaganda-purposes.html"  rel="nofollow">–Hamas Gaza jihad flotilla organizers not humanitarian, wanted massacre for propaganda purposes–</a></p>
<p>    “The international condemnations are already raining down upon Israel, the only nation in the world that is not allowed to defend itself. If we had an American President (that is, one who was primarily concerned with upholding the best interests of the United States), rather than a Post-American President (that is, a doctrinaire socialist internationalist), he would be speaking out strongly in favor of Israel today. ” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/idf-officer-on-gaza-flotilla-it-was-like-a-well-planned-lynch-these-people-were-anything-but-peace-a.html"  rel="nofollow">–IDF officer on Gaza flotilla: &#8220;It was like a well-planned lynch. These people were anything but peace activists.&#8221;–</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Okay, it&#039;s official.  Mark Driscoll is a problem.  I hate to say this because I started out really, really liking him.  I first heard about Driscoll when my husband and I were searching for a good church.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2010/05/mark-driscoll-face-of-contemplative.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Mark Driscoll: The Face of Contemplative Calvinism–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Here’s Todd Friel being his brilliantly creative self showing the similarities between fainting farm goats and the ‘ministry’ of Benny Hinn. The goats tickle me, the deception of Benny Hinn, not so much.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://5ptsalt.com/2010/05/31/benny-hinn-slays-em/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+5PtSalt+%285+pt.+Salt%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Benny Hinn Slays ‘Em–&lt;/a&gt;

    “There’s a video I did a while back on Rob Bell (it’s at the end of the article). In particular, the video is about Rob Bell’s answer to his interviewer from the magazine Christianity Today. The question given to Rob Was: “How would you present this gospel on Twitter?”” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vibist.com/2010/05/rob-bell-christianity-today-twitter-and-the-gospel/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Rob Bell, Christianity Today, Twitter, and the Gospel?! –&lt;/a&gt;

    “ I had learned that the vision of &quot;social justice&quot; is infused with deceptive dreams. Promising economic equality, its well-trained &quot;organizers&quot; would destroy personal incentive, undermine family values, twist God&#039;s Word, and breed dependence and poverty for all but its elite leaders! There  wouldn&#039;t be much wealth left to spread. Yet the lie survives -- even in today&#039;s churches. A major advocate for this agenda is Jim Wallis, a member of the President&#039;s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. He founded the left-leaning magazine, Sojourners, which promotes an idealistic view of &quot;social justice.&quot; Its February 2007 issue gave us a glimpse of its position: ” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/2-social-justice.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Social Justice and the New Morality–&lt;/a&gt;

    “Before writing my book, A Time of Departing, I made sure I could prove, beyond a doubt, that contemplative prayer had not only slipped into the Christian faith, but also prove it is an integral part of the New Age movement. In fact, New Agers see contemplative prayer as one of their own practices. Why would both New Agers and Christians claim contemplative prayer as their own?” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/lighthousetrails/010/5-contemplative.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Contemplative Spirituality = New Age Movement –&lt;/a&gt;

    “Bruce Waltke is one of the most well-known Old Testament scholars in the Reformed tradition of this generation. Known by many as a conservative, his comments made in a recently-released 2009 interview may have created one of the most significant theological firestorms to sweep through the evangelical community in recent memory” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://herescope.blogspot.com/2010/05/bruce-waltkes-comments-create-firestorm.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Bruce Waltke’s Comments Create Firestorm –&lt;/a&gt;

    “The &quot;Two Kingdoms&quot; each have their own gospel message. One is true and biblical. One is a false gospel. One seeks to change men internally via repentance upon hearing the Gospel of Salvation, the message of the Cross, regeneration and the indwelling Holy Spirit. The other seeks to change men externally via institutional changes, moral codes, economic structures, mysticism, etc. These two gospels do not mix, even though the men who promote the false gospel often fool people by giving lip service to the true Gospel.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.website_address_here&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Two Gospels –&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_10477"><p>“Okay, it&#8217;s official.  Mark Driscoll is a problem.  I hate to say this because I started out really, really liking him.  I first heard about Driscoll when my husband and I were searching for a good church.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2010/05/mark-driscoll-face-of-contemplative.html"  rel="nofollow">–Mark Driscoll: The Face of Contemplative Calvinism–</a></p>
<p>    “Here’s Todd Friel being his brilliantly creative self showing the similarities between fainting farm goats and the ‘ministry’ of Benny Hinn. The goats tickle me, the deception of Benny Hinn, not so much.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://5ptsalt.com/2010/05/31/benny-hinn-slays-em/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+5PtSalt+%285+pt.+Salt%29"  rel="nofollow">–Benny Hinn Slays ‘Em–</a></p>
<p>    “There’s a video I did a while back on Rob Bell (it’s at the end of the article). In particular, the video is about Rob Bell’s answer to his interviewer from the magazine Christianity Today. The question given to Rob Was: “How would you present this gospel on Twitter?”” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.vibist.com/2010/05/rob-bell-christianity-today-twitter-and-the-gospel/"  rel="nofollow">–Rob Bell, Christianity Today, Twitter, and the Gospel?! –</a></p>
<p>    “ I had learned that the vision of &#8220;social justice&#8221; is infused with deceptive dreams. Promising economic equality, its well-trained &#8220;organizers&#8221; would destroy personal incentive, undermine family values, twist God&#8217;s Word, and breed dependence and poverty for all but its elite leaders! There  wouldn&#8217;t be much wealth left to spread. Yet the lie survives &#8212; even in today&#8217;s churches. A major advocate for this agenda is Jim Wallis, a member of the President&#8217;s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. He founded the left-leaning magazine, Sojourners, which promotes an idealistic view of &#8220;social justice.&#8221; Its February 2007 issue gave us a glimpse of its position: ” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/2-social-justice.htm"  rel="nofollow">–Social Justice and the New Morality–</a></p>
<p>    “Before writing my book, A Time of Departing, I made sure I could prove, beyond a doubt, that contemplative prayer had not only slipped into the Christian faith, but also prove it is an integral part of the New Age movement. In fact, New Agers see contemplative prayer as one of their own practices. Why would both New Agers and Christians claim contemplative prayer as their own?” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/spirituality/lighthousetrails/010/5-contemplative.htm"  rel="nofollow">–Contemplative Spirituality = New Age Movement –</a></p>
<p>    “Bruce Waltke is one of the most well-known Old Testament scholars in the Reformed tradition of this generation. Known by many as a conservative, his comments made in a recently-released 2009 interview may have created one of the most significant theological firestorms to sweep through the evangelical community in recent memory” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2010/05/bruce-waltkes-comments-create-firestorm.html"  rel="nofollow">–Bruce Waltke’s Comments Create Firestorm –</a></p>
<p>    “The &#8220;Two Kingdoms&#8221; each have their own gospel message. One is true and biblical. One is a false gospel. One seeks to change men internally via repentance upon hearing the Gospel of Salvation, the message of the Cross, regeneration and the indwelling Holy Spirit. The other seeks to change men externally via institutional changes, moral codes, economic structures, mysticism, etc. These two gospels do not mix, even though the men who promote the false gospel often fool people by giving lip service to the true Gospel.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.website_address_here"  rel="nofollow">–Two Gospels –</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“EU foreign policy chief calls for comprehensive enquiry into deaths aboard aid ships seized by Israel&#039;s Navy. White House says examining circumstances of clash. Spain, Sweden and Greece summon Israeli ambassadors to their capitals to demand explanations. &quot;High Representative Catherine Ashton expresses her deep regret at the news of loss of life and violence and extends her sympathies to families of the dead and wounded,&quot; said a spokesperson for Ashton, the EU&#039;s foreign policy chief.&quot;On behalf of the European Union she demands a full enquiry about the circumstances in which this happened ... She calls for an immediate, sustained and unconditional opening of the crossing for the flow of humanitarian aid, commercial goods and persons to and from Gaza.&quot;UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the violence, saying, &quot;I am shocked by reports of killing of people in boats carrying supply to Gaza. I heard the ships were in international water. That is very bad.&quot; He called for a &quot;thorough investigation.&quot;.” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896586,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–World in shock at deadly Gaza ship raid–&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_10463"><p>“EU foreign policy chief calls for comprehensive enquiry into deaths aboard aid ships seized by Israel&#8217;s Navy. White House says examining circumstances of clash. Spain, Sweden and Greece summon Israeli ambassadors to their capitals to demand explanations. &#8220;High Representative Catherine Ashton expresses her deep regret at the news of loss of life and violence and extends her sympathies to families of the dead and wounded,&#8221; said a spokesperson for Ashton, the EU&#8217;s foreign policy chief.&#8221;On behalf of the European Union she demands a full enquiry about the circumstances in which this happened &#8230; She calls for an immediate, sustained and unconditional opening of the crossing for the flow of humanitarian aid, commercial goods and persons to and from Gaza.&#8221;UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the violence, saying, &#8220;I am shocked by reports of killing of people in boats carrying supply to Gaza. I heard the ships were in international water. That is very bad.&#8221; He called for a &#8220;thorough investigation.&#8221;.” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896586,00.html"  rel="nofollow">–World in shock at deadly Gaza ship raid–</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 13:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Israel: Activists on Gaza sail had weapons Deputy Foreign Minister Daniel Ayalon holds press briefing several hours after IDF takes over flotilla headed to Strip, accuses fleet&#039;s organizers of having ties to Hamas, al-Qaeda.Deputy Foreign Minister Daniel Ayalon said Monday morning that the pro-Palestinian activists on the flotilla sailing to the Gaza Strip had weapons on board. At least 10 people were killed in the raid and some 50 were injured. Six IDF soldiers were also hurt, two of them sustaining serious wounds.In a first official Israeli response to the deadly Israel Defense Forces takeover of the ships, Ayalon accused the sail&#039;s organizers of having ties to the Hamas and al-Qaeda terror organizations.  .” &#9830; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896588,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;–Israel: Activists on Gaza sail had weapons –&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_10461"><p>“Israel: Activists on Gaza sail had weapons Deputy Foreign Minister Daniel Ayalon holds press briefing several hours after IDF takes over flotilla headed to Strip, accuses fleet&#8217;s organizers of having ties to Hamas, al-Qaeda.Deputy Foreign Minister Daniel Ayalon said Monday morning that the pro-Palestinian activists on the flotilla sailing to the Gaza Strip had weapons on board. At least 10 people were killed in the raid and some 50 were injured. Six IDF soldiers were also hurt, two of them sustaining serious wounds.In a first official Israeli response to the deadly Israel Defense Forces takeover of the ships, Ayalon accused the sail&#8217;s organizers of having ties to the Hamas and al-Qaeda terror organizations.  .” &diams; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896588,00.html"  rel="nofollow">–Israel: Activists on Gaza sail had weapons –</a></p>
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