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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thanks Tayara!</description>
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		<title>By: Tayara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tayara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”
 
What do you mean by that? Not the atoning works of Christ on cross? this is a strange gospel Apostle Paul is talking about in Gal.1:8. now  I say , runnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!


Evangelist Melissa Bolduc wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Regarding my faith;
I am 54 years of age, I sought the Lord all of my life and never experienced the peace of God or the reality of my salvation until I entered covenant 4 years ago under the steward of Gods house Chief Apostle Eric vonAnderseck.
Therefore I am neither persuaded by your comments or your wrest of the scriptures to urge me to depart from the true and living God to go back to a dead faith with no eternal life or present reality of Christ in my life. Neither would I depart from the true Body of Christ, which walks in unity of the one true faith, nor will I deny the gospel of my persuasion which has grounded me in the faith and given me the lot and life I now possess in Christ with the future promise of my reward of eternity in the bosom of the Father.
What we experience in covenant is what is absent in the current denominational church system today also called the “many headed hydra” or “Satans seat” which promotes satans false doctrine and false Christ. Those bound in this system wrest the scriptures to their own destruction. They believe they have Christ in their hands through the text of scripture, yet deny Christ who is the LIVING WORD which no one can confine to the pages of a book. He is not pen and paper.
This pseudo doctrine being embraced by the church at large is a placebo which keeps satans servants bound in ignorance and hypnotized by false promises; you are they who “search the scriptures for IN THEM you think you have eternal life and they are they which testify of me”. Says Christ in John 5:39. You will never come to the knowledge of the mystery of Christ through the reading of the text for these are those” ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” 2 Tim 3:7. The truth is in covenant as we are tethered to God by the 3 fold cord of government, truth and Spirit.
Satans doctrine possesses no power to purge the conscience, heal the soul or birth the very nature or life of Christ in the innerman; the life of Christ in us the hope of glory, therefore the beastly carnal nature will remain regardless of how good or moral you may become or how much you read and practice the written word; for the letter killeth, but the Spirit gives life. 2 Cor 3:6. The Spirit of God will only bear witness to the record of Christ. 
We in covenant experience the witness of the Spirit daily and also the many manifestations of Gods grace which he promises to those who worship Him in Spirit and in truth, we possess His peace which is other worldly and is not governed by our circumstances and we find our rest in Him as we seek him at the altar of our faith. He is the DOOR we enter through to commune with the living God; these are not mere words but our reality.
Everything in covenant furthers Gods plan and not the plan of man, it doesn’t cater to the flesh, but on the contrary teaches us how to die to the flesh that we may live both now and eternally IN Christ our Lord and King. Those who lack true faith, lean to their own understanding and instead choose to refute and reject truth who IS Christ, preferring to serve the Christ and gospel created by satan or their own imagination because it is what is familiar to them, taught by their pastor and themselves, appealing to their own flesh, aspiration, moral code and principle which only dresses them in the filthy rags of self-righteousness and not the righteousness of Christ.
Your doctrine requires no works of faith by which we overcome self, satan and the world, but instead feeds the flesh teaching men to blaspheme God by calling evil good and good evil. These will never inherit Gods kingdom. These are satans offspring, those whom God is preparing to accept the man known as the Antichrist. He will fit the Christ of their imagination in all ways except he will not be able to raise the dead, for only the one who is life can give life.
I find no need or persuasion to answer your questions any further which you have only ask not for the desire of truth or the furtherance of the knowledge of Christ, but for the purpose of gendering strife and debate as if this is all about who’s right and who’s wrong or for the purpose of gloating and pride. It’s about truth and life eternal,those who love truth embrace it regardless of previous indoctrination or the sting to their pride. Your lack of desire for truth is evident by your inability to understand our answers; for truth can only be seen when revealed by God through his grace and only as we humble our self to accept it by faith. God resist the proud but gives grace to the humble. 1Peter 5:5
Let it be made known that God is calling all who have “ears to hear” to come out from among them, the false religious system and be saved by returning to their first love and first works (Rev 2:4-5) of the covenant and the priesthood which Christ provided by the shedding of His blood. The covenant is the way of faith by which we walk in agreement with God therefore he promises to be our father and us his children.
This is an offer of clemency to save you from His wrath to come which will come upon the ungodly, the fruitless ones who walk contrary to all that is true and holy. Those who reject Gods offer of clemency will be made to shed their own blood for the rejection of the blood of Christ.
http://second8thweek.org/content.php?id=23
“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”
In Christ ~Evangelist Melissa&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216001"><p>“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”</p>
<p>What do you mean by that? Not the atoning works of Christ on cross? this is a strange gospel Apostle Paul is talking about in Gal.1:8. now  I say , runnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!</p>
<p>Evangelist Melissa Bolduc wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Regarding my faith;<br />
I am 54 years of age, I sought the Lord all of my life and never experienced the peace of God or the reality of my salvation until I entered covenant 4 years ago under the steward of Gods house Chief Apostle Eric vonAnderseck.<br />
Therefore I am neither persuaded by your comments or your wrest of the scriptures to urge me to depart from the true and living God to go back to a dead faith with no eternal life or present reality of Christ in my life. Neither would I depart from the true Body of Christ, which walks in unity of the one true faith, nor will I deny the gospel of my persuasion which has grounded me in the faith and given me the lot and life I now possess in Christ with the future promise of my reward of eternity in the bosom of the Father.<br />
What we experience in covenant is what is absent in the current denominational church system today also called the “many headed hydra” or “Satans seat” which promotes satans false doctrine and false Christ. Those bound in this system wrest the scriptures to their own destruction. They believe they have Christ in their hands through the text of scripture, yet deny Christ who is the LIVING WORD which no one can confine to the pages of a book. He is not pen and paper.<br />
This pseudo doctrine being embraced by the church at large is a placebo which keeps satans servants bound in ignorance and hypnotized by false promises; you are they who “search the scriptures for IN THEM you think you have eternal life and they are they which testify of me”. Says Christ in John 5:39. You will never come to the knowledge of the mystery of Christ through the reading of the text for these are those” ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” 2 Tim 3:7. The truth is in covenant as we are tethered to God by the 3 fold cord of government, truth and Spirit.<br />
Satans doctrine possesses no power to purge the conscience, heal the soul or birth the very nature or life of Christ in the innerman; the life of Christ in us the hope of glory, therefore the beastly carnal nature will remain regardless of how good or moral you may become or how much you read and practice the written word; for the letter killeth, but the Spirit gives life. 2 Cor 3:6. The Spirit of God will only bear witness to the record of Christ.<br />
We in covenant experience the witness of the Spirit daily and also the many manifestations of Gods grace which he promises to those who worship Him in Spirit and in truth, we possess His peace which is other worldly and is not governed by our circumstances and we find our rest in Him as we seek him at the altar of our faith. He is the DOOR we enter through to commune with the living God; these are not mere words but our reality.<br />
Everything in covenant furthers Gods plan and not the plan of man, it doesn’t cater to the flesh, but on the contrary teaches us how to die to the flesh that we may live both now and eternally IN Christ our Lord and King. Those who lack true faith, lean to their own understanding and instead choose to refute and reject truth who IS Christ, preferring to serve the Christ and gospel created by satan or their own imagination because it is what is familiar to them, taught by their pastor and themselves, appealing to their own flesh, aspiration, moral code and principle which only dresses them in the filthy rags of self-righteousness and not the righteousness of Christ.<br />
Your doctrine requires no works of faith by which we overcome self, satan and the world, but instead feeds the flesh teaching men to blaspheme God by calling evil good and good evil. These will never inherit Gods kingdom. These are satans offspring, those whom God is preparing to accept the man known as the Antichrist. He will fit the Christ of their imagination in all ways except he will not be able to raise the dead, for only the one who is life can give life.<br />
I find no need or persuasion to answer your questions any further which you have only ask not for the desire of truth or the furtherance of the knowledge of Christ, but for the purpose of gendering strife and debate as if this is all about who’s right and who’s wrong or for the purpose of gloating and pride. It’s about truth and life eternal,those who love truth embrace it regardless of previous indoctrination or the sting to their pride. Your lack of desire for truth is evident by your inability to understand our answers; for truth can only be seen when revealed by God through his grace and only as we humble our self to accept it by faith. God resist the proud but gives grace to the humble. 1Peter 5:5<br />
Let it be made known that God is calling all who have “ears to hear” to come out from among them, the false religious system and be saved by returning to their first love and first works (Rev 2:4-5) of the covenant and the priesthood which Christ provided by the shedding of His blood. The covenant is the way of faith by which we walk in agreement with God therefore he promises to be our father and us his children.<br />
This is an offer of clemency to save you from His wrath to come which will come upon the ungodly, the fruitless ones who walk contrary to all that is true and holy. Those who reject Gods offer of clemency will be made to shed their own blood for the rejection of the blood of Christ.<br />
<a target="_blank" href="http://second8thweek.org/content.php?id=23"  rel="nofollow">http://second8thweek.org/content.php?id=23</a><br />
“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”<br />
In Christ ~Evangelist Melissa</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Tayara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tayara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some would say “that’s why we have the scriptures”, and I say the letter killeth, but the Spirit gives life! 

To Evangelist Melissa: the letter that kills refers to the Old Covenant(Laws) which was handed by God to Moses.The Old Covenant reveals God&#039;s holiness and at the same time condemn sins. For there is none righteous no not one...and Jesus says,(correct me Deb,pls)the Word is a Spirit and they are life....

thanks Deb for this discerning blog...

Evangelist Melissa Bolduc wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Deb for your learning experience regarding knowledge and its importance and necessity for faith;
The word “Knowledge” is in the scriptures 172 times, beat out by love=310,faith=247, wisdom=234,and known=222 which is in direct correlation to KNOW-ledge. 
We cannot KNOW God apart from the KNOW-ledge of Him which we receive from Gods KNOW-Ledge Stewards called APOSTLES. 
Some would say “that’s why we have the scriptures”, and I say the letter killeth, but the Spirit gives life! The life of Christ embodies the KNOWLEDGE of His truth,the (hidden) Mystery of Christ not the dead letter, for Christ is not pen and paper, He IS the LIVING WORD of GOD.
JOHN 5:39 SEARCH the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which TESTIFY of me. 
ISAIAH 28
9 Whom shall he teach KNOWLEDGE? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; here a little, and there a little:
13 But the word of the LORD was unto THEM precept upon precept, precept upon precept; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and FALL backward, and be BROKEN, and SNARED, and TAKEN. 
HOSEA 4:1 Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor KNOWLEDGE of God in the land.
6 My people are destroyed for lack of KNOWLEDGE: because thou hast rejected KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. 
“The divinity and hidden things of God are beyond finding out through mans logic, reason and intellect, therefore we must seek God to know Him through the spiritual tokens he has authorized and sanctified for our faith.”
IN Christ~Evangelist Melissa&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216000"><p>Some would say “that’s why we have the scriptures”, and I say the letter killeth, but the Spirit gives life! </p>
<p>To Evangelist Melissa: the letter that kills refers to the Old Covenant(Laws) which was handed by God to Moses.The Old Covenant reveals God&#8217;s holiness and at the same time condemn sins. For there is none righteous no not one&#8230;and Jesus says,(correct me Deb,pls)the Word is a Spirit and they are life&#8230;.</p>
<p>thanks Deb for this discerning blog&#8230;</p>
<p>Evangelist Melissa Bolduc wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Deb for your learning experience regarding knowledge and its importance and necessity for faith;<br />
The word “Knowledge” is in the scriptures 172 times, beat out by love=310,faith=247, wisdom=234,and known=222 which is in direct correlation to KNOW-ledge.<br />
We cannot KNOW God apart from the KNOW-ledge of Him which we receive from Gods KNOW-Ledge Stewards called APOSTLES.<br />
Some would say “that’s why we have the scriptures”, and I say the letter killeth, but the Spirit gives life! The life of Christ embodies the KNOWLEDGE of His truth,the (hidden) Mystery of Christ not the dead letter, for Christ is not pen and paper, He IS the LIVING WORD of GOD.<br />
JOHN 5:39 SEARCH the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which TESTIFY of me.<br />
ISAIAH 28<br />
9 Whom shall he teach KNOWLEDGE? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.<br />
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; here a little, and there a little:<br />
13 But the word of the LORD was unto THEM precept upon precept, precept upon precept; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and FALL backward, and be BROKEN, and SNARED, and TAKEN.<br />
HOSEA 4:1 Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor KNOWLEDGE of God in the land.<br />
6 My people are destroyed for lack of KNOWLEDGE: because thou hast rejected KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.<br />
“The divinity and hidden things of God are beyond finding out through mans logic, reason and intellect, therefore we must seek God to know Him through the spiritual tokens he has authorized and sanctified for our faith.”<br />
IN Christ~Evangelist Melissa</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah, An update on this topic. Some vindication?

I visited here once again because I got notification of a a comment on the site endtimesprophetic in relation to Eric VonAnderseck and second8thweek. I scrolled down throgh the comments here and something caught my eye. I was challenged here by a poster called &quot;Johan&quot;    Johan wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Johan
23 November, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Greg, I vaguely remember your visit here in Mossel Bay and was wondering, were you not the guy who was persuing the lovely blond girl who was not willing to marry you because of your spiritual differences? Sounds like some serious sour grapes now doesn’t it! ????? I’m not part of their group, but she is sound in faith man, have seen no error in anything that she preaches and love the stabilty in faith and single and sobermindedness she and others in their group maintains. They are a true blessing to be around with and there is an amazing unity in faith between all of them. Maybe absolutely worthwhile investigating. Why so violent Greg, you seem like a real angry man??? You should pray and ask God for wisdom and peace! He will help you and save your soul. Peace to you brother. J

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was amazed to see Johan&#039;s picture because it is actually David VonAnderseck Eric VonAndersecks son. So it seems David posed as someone who met me and yet I never met him in person ever. The rest of the untruths are contained in his comment. David is also an Apostle of second8thweek. To any of Eric&#039;s followers who may read this...Now do you see? I pray David that you will open your eyes to the truth. I was deceived myself in life many times. May the Lord open the eyes of your understanding and may we one day truly be brothers.

     Greg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_215289"><p>Deborah, An update on this topic. Some vindication?</p>
<p>I visited here once again because I got notification of a a comment on the site endtimesprophetic in relation to Eric VonAnderseck and second8thweek. I scrolled down throgh the comments here and something caught my eye. I was challenged here by a poster called &#8220;Johan&#8221;    Johan wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Johan<br />
23 November, 2010 at 10:04 pm<br />
Greg, I vaguely remember your visit here in Mossel Bay and was wondering, were you not the guy who was persuing the lovely blond girl who was not willing to marry you because of your spiritual differences? Sounds like some serious sour grapes now doesn’t it! ????? I’m not part of their group, but she is sound in faith man, have seen no error in anything that she preaches and love the stabilty in faith and single and sobermindedness she and others in their group maintains. They are a true blessing to be around with and there is an amazing unity in faith between all of them. Maybe absolutely worthwhile investigating. Why so violent Greg, you seem like a real angry man??? You should pray and ask God for wisdom and peace! He will help you and save your soul. Peace to you brother. J</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I was amazed to see Johan&#8217;s picture because it is actually David VonAnderseck Eric VonAndersecks son. So it seems David posed as someone who met me and yet I never met him in person ever. The rest of the untruths are contained in his comment. David is also an Apostle of second8thweek. To any of Eric&#8217;s followers who may read this&#8230;Now do you see? I pray David that you will open your eyes to the truth. I was deceived myself in life many times. May the Lord open the eyes of your understanding and may we one day truly be brothers.</p>
<p>     Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, you said:

“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”

I am sad for you. Apparently you were never presented with the true Gospel from God&#039;s Word. You were not really seeking God, you were seeking an EXPERIENCE. And that is what you have found, an EXPERIENCE. And you are in love with the EXPERIENCE.

Yes, the established church as an institution is wrong. But the Body of Christ is the true Church and does not include everyone in the &quot;established&quot; church with a little &quot;c&quot;. 

You will come to realize your error at some point and I only hope that it will not be too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_117206"><p>Melissa, you said:</p>
<p>“Salvation is the product of the new covenant priesthood.”</p>
<p>I am sad for you. Apparently you were never presented with the true Gospel from God&#8217;s Word. You were not really seeking God, you were seeking an EXPERIENCE. And that is what you have found, an EXPERIENCE. And you are in love with the EXPERIENCE.</p>
<p>Yes, the established church as an institution is wrong. But the Body of Christ is the true Church and does not include everyone in the &#8220;established&#8221; church with a little &#8220;c&#8221;. </p>
<p>You will come to realize your error at some point and I only hope that it will not be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are those that trust the simple clear messages of the scriptures given to us by God out of His divine goodness,mercy and love for us.
And there are those that are not satisfied and seek experiences that contradict all that is so clear and rely on a third party (in this case Eric) to enlighten them. How very self-centred,small-minded and very sad.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Melissa...I am 54 years of age, I sought the Lord all of my life and never experienced the peace of God or the reality of my salvation until I entered covenant 4 years ago under the steward of Gods house Chief Apostle Eric vonAnderseck.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_116925"><p>There are those that trust the simple clear messages of the scriptures given to us by God out of His divine goodness,mercy and love for us.<br />
And there are those that are not satisfied and seek experiences that contradict all that is so clear and rely on a third party (in this case Eric) to enlighten them. How very self-centred,small-minded and very sad.</p>
<blockquote><p>Melissa&#8230;I am 54 years of age, I sought the Lord all of my life and never experienced the peace of God or the reality of my salvation until I entered covenant 4 years ago under the steward of Gods house Chief Apostle Eric vonAnderseck.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: sylesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evangelist Melissa, Please try to understand that your &quot;experience &quot; of  peace and grounding are not a true barometer of truth. The scriptures alone can be that to you, an anchor for your soul when what you may or may not feel experiencially can change with any given moment, or changing circumstances of life. This is how people get drawn into cults, because it makes them &quot;feel&quot; or &quot;experience&quot; what they think is a relationship with the true God, when in fact it is a false peace. Our hearts are so decietful melissa, we cannot trust ANYTHING as trumping the WRITTEN WORD of God , to wit we do well to pay attention as a light that shines in the dark. God has given us EVERYTHING that pertains to life and godliness in His Word. Read the Word apart from Erics teachings, you will not see his teachings in the BIble. Take care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_116924"><p>Evangelist Melissa, Please try to understand that your &#8220;experience &#8221; of  peace and grounding are not a true barometer of truth. The scriptures alone can be that to you, an anchor for your soul when what you may or may not feel experiencially can change with any given moment, or changing circumstances of life. This is how people get drawn into cults, because it makes them &#8220;feel&#8221; or &#8220;experience&#8221; what they think is a relationship with the true God, when in fact it is a false peace. Our hearts are so decietful melissa, we cannot trust ANYTHING as trumping the WRITTEN WORD of God , to wit we do well to pay attention as a light that shines in the dark. God has given us EVERYTHING that pertains to life and godliness in His Word. Read the Word apart from Erics teachings, you will not see his teachings in the BIble. Take care</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barland

Thanks so much for the comment-   I really appreciate it :)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_116745"><p>Barland</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the comment-   I really appreciate it :)))</p>
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		<title>By: Greg.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monique,

Monique Babst wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Observe the spirit and temperament of Greg that it is not Christ. .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think if I had the spirit and temperament of the world in my prayer concerning Eric i think I would have prayed something like this: 

Luke 9:54 (King James Version)
54And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Only the Lord and myself know the sincerity and meaning of my prayer, and those to whom the spirit reveals it.

Monique, Your judgement of me is based on a belief that I am acting in an unjust and unrighteous way towards my brother Eric, according to the scriptures you posted at least, from 1 John. But the thing is this Monique and I say this without any glee or malice and indeed say it with sadness somewhat, but I do not consider Eric to be my brother. Whatever about the brotherhood of humanity, yes, if you believe in such a concept and I do to a certain extent, but not a brother in the Lord. I have no fellowship in my spirit with Eric.

And why do I not have fellowship with him in my spirit? Because of this: 
1 John 5

 1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

Eric and his teachings deny the very core and essence of this truth to be true. I wish it were not so.

      Greg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_115905"><p>Monique,</p>
<p>Monique Babst wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Observe the spirit and temperament of Greg that it is not Christ. .</p></blockquote>
<p>I think if I had the spirit and temperament of the world in my prayer concerning Eric i think I would have prayed something like this: </p>
<p>Luke 9:54 (King James Version)<br />
54And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?</p>
<p>Only the Lord and myself know the sincerity and meaning of my prayer, and those to whom the spirit reveals it.</p>
<p>Monique, Your judgement of me is based on a belief that I am acting in an unjust and unrighteous way towards my brother Eric, according to the scriptures you posted at least, from 1 John. But the thing is this Monique and I say this without any glee or malice and indeed say it with sadness somewhat, but I do not consider Eric to be my brother. Whatever about the brotherhood of humanity, yes, if you believe in such a concept and I do to a certain extent, but not a brother in the Lord. I have no fellowship in my spirit with Eric.</p>
<p>And why do I not have fellowship with him in my spirit? Because of this:<br />
1 John 5</p>
<p> 1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.</p>
<p>Eric and his teachings deny the very core and essence of this truth to be true. I wish it were not so.</p>
<p>      Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah, Greg and Michael, we have all done our best to speak truth to these people to no avail. Instead they say we are unloving when they are the ones twisting God&#039;s word to make a lie and adding to His Word when He has made it clear that is sin. 

Enough - Leave them to their own devices. It is tragic and it grieves our hearts, but as far as I&#039;m concerned it is done. Thanks Debs for posting this as a warning to the unwary. But obviously there are those who choose to believe a lie and that is their choice. Proverbs 14:12
At least now they can&#039;t say that someone didn&#039;t try to warn them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_115417"><p>Deborah, Greg and Michael, we have all done our best to speak truth to these people to no avail. Instead they say we are unloving when they are the ones twisting God&#8217;s word to make a lie and adding to His Word when He has made it clear that is sin. </p>
<p>Enough &#8211; Leave them to their own devices. It is tragic and it grieves our hearts, but as far as I&#8217;m concerned it is done. Thanks Debs for posting this as a warning to the unwary. But obviously there are those who choose to believe a lie and that is their choice. Proverbs 14:12<br />
At least now they can&#8217;t say that someone didn&#8217;t try to warn them.</p>
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