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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/27/the-new-but-quite-old-apostamation-and-refopostasy/#comment-16150</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louise

Thank God you used your brain that God gave you to listen to the Holy Spirit.  It&#039;s incredibly sad that the percentage of people who get out of this rubbish is like 1% maybe less.  I&#039;ve been told I have the gift of discernment - I once agreed.  Now I disagree, WHY? Because ALL born again Christians have the gift of discernment because of the Holy Spirit that abides in us.  To say one person has discernment and another born again Christian not is to take away from the Holy Spirit. 

Thought I would just add that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_16150"><p>Louise</p>
<p>Thank God you used your brain that God gave you to listen to the Holy Spirit.  It&#8217;s incredibly sad that the percentage of people who get out of this rubbish is like 1% maybe less.  I&#8217;ve been told I have the gift of discernment &#8211; I once agreed.  Now I disagree, WHY? Because ALL born again Christians have the gift of discernment because of the Holy Spirit that abides in us.  To say one person has discernment and another born again Christian not is to take away from the Holy Spirit. </p>
<p>Thought I would just add that :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louise Rector

Thank you for sharing with us. Stand strong and hold fast to what is good. The truth will prevail. John 3:21 May God guide and strengthen you for contending for the faith. We can only watch and pray and stay awake with our little lamps of oil filled all the time. 1 Corinthians 16:13 and Matthew 25:4 and also 1 Timothy 1:19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_16058"><p>Louise Rector</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing with us. Stand strong and hold fast to what is good. The truth will prevail. John 3:21 May God guide and strengthen you for contending for the faith. We can only watch and pray and stay awake with our little lamps of oil filled all the time. 1 Corinthians 16:13 and Matthew 25:4 and also 1 Timothy 1:19</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Rector</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/27/the-new-but-quite-old-apostamation-and-refopostasy/#comment-16050</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise Rector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just left a church, (July 2010), that &quot;eased&quot; in false Apostolic Reformation teachings.  Everyone seemed to just sit there and let these false teachings go over their heads.  NO DISCERNMENT OR BIBLE STUDYING WHATSOEVER, apparently, as they didn&#039;t pick up on it, or they just didn&#039;t care, as they would follow the PASTOR, no matter WHERE he took them.  I spoke up TWICE, (once at a ladies meeting and again the next night at a prayer meeting), to warn them that this &quot;MOVE&quot; is not of God.  People were quiet, (some had admitted to me they had concerns),  and the pastor actually admitted that &quot;LOTS of things that go on at these meetings are not of God&quot;, YET, he continued on with his and the churches plans to go to the July 22nd, 2010 meeting, with Dutch Sheets, Ken Malone, and Henderson in Pensacola, Florida.  HE is suppose to be the &quot;protector&quot; of the sheep.   I loved these people in the church, and realized that maybe I loved them a little to much,(more than God),  as I too, would have followed the Pastor anywhere, (until God &#039;awakened&#039; me), but PRAISE GOD, he literally DROVE ME out of that church, after I warned them.  I knew that I knew, even before they went to this meeting, that they would not stand on the Word, but 
would go the POPULAR route, (and the signs and wonders route),  even tho they would be taking a stand against God.  Poor &quot;dumb&quot; sheep.....the WOLVES are moving ever closer to destroy them.  I warned them....I am at PEACE, but am totally COMMITTED to warn other people of God about this end time &quot;revival.&quot;  I am passing out literature, PRAYING against these false prophets and Apostles, and just KNOW that in the end, all these false men will be destroyed of God....and sadly, ALL who follow after them.  May God wake  up his people before it is to late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_16050"><p>I just left a church, (July 2010), that &#8220;eased&#8221; in false Apostolic Reformation teachings.  Everyone seemed to just sit there and let these false teachings go over their heads.  NO DISCERNMENT OR BIBLE STUDYING WHATSOEVER, apparently, as they didn&#8217;t pick up on it, or they just didn&#8217;t care, as they would follow the PASTOR, no matter WHERE he took them.  I spoke up TWICE, (once at a ladies meeting and again the next night at a prayer meeting), to warn them that this &#8220;MOVE&#8221; is not of God.  People were quiet, (some had admitted to me they had concerns),  and the pastor actually admitted that &#8220;LOTS of things that go on at these meetings are not of God&#8221;, YET, he continued on with his and the churches plans to go to the July 22nd, 2010 meeting, with Dutch Sheets, Ken Malone, and Henderson in Pensacola, Florida.  HE is suppose to be the &#8220;protector&#8221; of the sheep.   I loved these people in the church, and realized that maybe I loved them a little to much,(more than God),  as I too, would have followed the Pastor anywhere, (until God &#8216;awakened&#8217; me), but PRAISE GOD, he literally DROVE ME out of that church, after I warned them.  I knew that I knew, even before they went to this meeting, that they would not stand on the Word, but<br />
would go the POPULAR route, (and the signs and wonders route),  even tho they would be taking a stand against God.  Poor &#8220;dumb&#8221; sheep&#8230;..the WOLVES are moving ever closer to destroy them.  I warned them&#8230;.I am at PEACE, but am totally COMMITTED to warn other people of God about this end time &#8220;revival.&#8221;  I am passing out literature, PRAYING against these false prophets and Apostles, and just KNOW that in the end, all these false men will be destroyed of God&#8230;.and sadly, ALL who follow after them.  May God wake  up his people before it is to late.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 07:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_8366"><p>Thanks Derek</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 06:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep on contending for the faith !!! I post your link on many of my You Tube videos. We are in the apostasy that the Bible speaks about, yet everyone in the Latter Day Rain camp keeps calling it a revival, spiritual discernment is dead. God Bless from Canada.

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_8252"><p>Keep on contending for the faith !!! I post your link on many of my You Tube videos. We are in the apostasy that the Bible speaks about, yet everyone in the Latter Day Rain camp keeps calling it a revival, spiritual discernment is dead. God Bless from Canada.</p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter

Seeing that you did not address your comment to anyone I will assume you meant Andrew:   Andrew needs to pause for a moment in his madness.  In fact ceasing would be the better option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4501"><p>Peter</p>
<p>Seeing that you did not address your comment to anyone I will assume you meant Andrew:   Andrew needs to pause for a moment in his madness.  In fact ceasing would be the better option.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first pastor told me, &quot;if you look for Jesus you will find Him, if you look for the Devil, you will find Him too!&quot;  Why do you people heap curses on your own head by &quot;having a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof&quot;.  Just as the pharisees in Jesus day could not believe you too cannot believe that the God of the Bible is still alive and working in the hearts of men.  You should pause for just a little moment in your madness and consider if you just might be fighting against God!  Consider the good counsel of Gamaliel who cautioned the scribes about standing against the moving of the Holy Spirit.  So my advice is... Stop looking for the Devil and start ernestly seeking Jesus, and lo and behold,!! if you seek him with all your heart, you will be found of Him and he will pour out His spirit upon your flesh and bring new life to you!!  Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4498"><p>My first pastor told me, &#8220;if you look for Jesus you will find Him, if you look for the Devil, you will find Him too!&#8221;  Why do you people heap curses on your own head by &#8220;having a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof&#8221;.  Just as the pharisees in Jesus day could not believe you too cannot believe that the God of the Bible is still alive and working in the hearts of men.  You should pause for just a little moment in your madness and consider if you just might be fighting against God!  Consider the good counsel of Gamaliel who cautioned the scribes about standing against the moving of the Holy Spirit.  So my advice is&#8230; Stop looking for the Devil and start ernestly seeking Jesus, and lo and behold,!! if you seek him with all your heart, you will be found of Him and he will pour out His spirit upon your flesh and bring new life to you!!  Amen</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burning Lamp

Nope, he is a master of disguises.  He resigned from Charisma as &lt;em&gt;editor &lt;/em&gt;to persue other things like releasing a book or something.  I read that from a news letter or twitter post he sent out the other day.  Maybe he is still affiliated with Charisma, but just resigned as the editor.</description>
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<p>Nope, he is a master of disguises.  He resigned from Charisma as <em>editor </em>to persue other things like releasing a book or something.  I read that from a news letter or twitter post he sent out the other day.  Maybe he is still affiliated with Charisma, but just resigned as the editor.</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said: It’s a BIG JOKE.  One false movement replaced by another, running in parallel with another, supposedly against one another, merging with each other.  False teachers exposing false teachers.  It’s just a big boiling pot – everything is being mixed together and no one knows what genuine Christianity is anymore. 

Deborah, you nailed it. Andrew Strom is an example of a half-cleansed temple, not purging the leaven, leaving in a portion to let it grow. I hope Andrew heeds your exhortation and comes clean. Half-truths are more dangerous than lies.

One thing I did wonder about - Lee Grady - has he come clean or does he still have one foot in the wrong camp? According to their website he is still affiliated with Charisma Rag Mag and your article indicated otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4330"><p>You said: It’s a BIG JOKE.  One false movement replaced by another, running in parallel with another, supposedly against one another, merging with each other.  False teachers exposing false teachers.  It’s just a big boiling pot – everything is being mixed together and no one knows what genuine Christianity is anymore. </p>
<p>Deborah, you nailed it. Andrew Strom is an example of a half-cleansed temple, not purging the leaven, leaving in a portion to let it grow. I hope Andrew heeds your exhortation and comes clean. Half-truths are more dangerous than lies.</p>
<p>One thing I did wonder about &#8211; Lee Grady &#8211; has he come clean or does he still have one foot in the wrong camp? According to their website he is still affiliated with Charisma Rag Mag and your article indicated otherwise.</p>
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