I Went on that Malta expedition back in 2004. In all fairness to Missler, he didn’t plan those visit’s to those sites your referring. I went in one of those buildings you mentioned and it grieved me greatly. I did find it interesting what Malta has done with a the traditional site of Paul’s ship wreck. It is a evil worship site of other gods for sure. A good contrast to where ever the true ship wreck site actually was/is located. Same thing seen in Jerusalem’s traditional verses the real sites.
I personally did not witness Missler visit any of those sites you documented. I’m not saying he didn’t… just saying I didn’t see him if he did go. I think you need to check the organization/travel people who booked the trip. So that trip should not reflect wether or not he is a false teacher.

I am concerned about his newest book the Kingdom power and the glory. Also concerned with the lack of discernment of who he had come on board his ministry back in late 2005. It does make me wonder….
I do know of others that have run into the same information as you have and even more info than you posted. It is disturbing to say the least. We have to discern …. pray always… the days are evil indeed. There are a lot of false teachers out there…

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I’m unexperienced with blogs etc. and actually only followed a link on chuck missler. I neither want, nor can add much to the “discussion”, ’cause I don’t know him persononally ( even I’m not much aquainted with all the other teacher mentioned so far,.) But I want to say this;
1. I do receive the k-house newsletter, which ends up with the request :” we solicit your prayer and support of this ministry ”
2.as living in germany Idon’t have access to much teaching of chuck missler, but whenever I’ve listen to his teachings on “the word of god” , I have heard him say, ever so often (!) ” search you yourself the scripture ! Don’t believe,. just because I, chuck missler have said it !!!”
3. Just recently on god TV, I think it was a teaching from the strategic trends 2011 conference, I heard him say, “that inspite of his oppinion he held until…, he must correct his view…”
4.and again, I’ve heard him say many times in different teachings, ” what does this word mean? I don’t know ! “; or “I,don’t know, I’ve a personal view, because of this and that… but I don’t know…”

I neither want to defend a person, I don’t know personally, nor judge her, I just say, what I’ve noticed…

5. Only a few people above mentioned it, but it is so vital !

Let’s pray for all those, who lead… !

And 6. we need each other,
’cause all of us see only “in part” ( f.i. as Paul says in 1. Cor 13,12
“Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely…” )
AND bringing the pieces together in brotherly love, would be helpful, and, so necessary correcting each other in love…

Can anybody of us say, that, he/she inherits the utterly and only true view/truth ?
I for myself can only answer as paul says it in his letter to the Philippians 3,12 ff. !

Yes, we have to examine, 1. Thess 5,21, “test everything, hold on to the good”… and as Jesus promised to us, with the holy spirits help, we will know the truth ! ( JN 16,13)

May some of his views be yet incomplete, therefore “unbalanced”, “extreme” to one or the other site, even wrong (?)
( to me it seems,that he has insights,I and many of us don’t have a clue of)
I got the impression, he really pursuits the lord, tries to understand as deep as possible, and to warn and challenge christians, as many of them are mislead to a luke-warm-ness…

May god himself,the god of peace, sanctify us, through and through, so that our whole spirit,soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our lord jesus christ… 1 Thess. 5,23..

Oh puleeeeeeeeeeeeze Matt! When Chuck cohabitated with false apostolic preachers in a live streaming broadcast some years ago that I saw with my own eyes, and he was questioned about this, there was just a big wall of silence. He was one of the leaders of the Y2k hysteria and to my knowledge never repented. Debs has documented everything as have many others who are seeking to serve the Lord by their warnings.

If you can discount all the facts laid out against his teaching you are blind as the proverbial bat.

Well said Mark. I have several of Chuck’s books, mp3′s, and dvd messages. I have disagreed with some of Chucks opinions (which he clearly states are his opinions), also, I have studied the scriptures along with Chucks messages, and have learned much, even eye-opening things regarding certain scriptures. I find that most people who label him as a false teacher never debate the man himself, or his students at Koininia House, which they are accessible. Most have their own agenda’s. To be fair, Deb has a right to her opinions right or wrong, just as we have a right to either agree or disagree with her. She can be accused of being a false teacher, or heretic as well, as anyone else.

Hi since this is one of the top sites on google when you search Chuck Missler false and its taken me about 3 months to actually read through (just started a new job) i feel obliged to reply. Just so you know I’m not a new “christian” but have only recently started a relationship with Jesus/God and am still learning a lot including from this site and lots of places.

Just a few points
1) With regard to peoples reply to posts (especially Deborah) alot of the time the replies to a opposing opinion can be argumentative, hostile and even ungodly (Quoting Jesus saying “get behind me Satan” in reply to posts. I’m sure the point of this blog is to enlighten people, but if every time people make an opposing argument people take it asa personal attack its not enlightening its just entrenching people in their original view.

2) I didn’t realise that peoples view on the tribulation effected their salvation?

3) It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings is to search out
a matter. (Proverbs 25:2)
A lot of what Chuck talks about is hidden patterns and messages in the bible not so much predictions (well from what i have watched of him) e.g. The name of Jesus in Leviticus etc. Also it seems you have not read what he has read about “codes” in the bible (neither have i) but when people come to you and say i have read it and its not like “the bible code” etc why not ask them about it or read it yourself?

4) I Have never read and don’t think i ever will read the “Bible code”. Picked it up once thought that sounds interesting as i picked it up can only explain a feeling of dread came over me, whether that was just me or a spiritual matter, i can still find better things to spend my time reading.

5) You claim that one of the reasons we should disregard the bible code is that quote
“If it was biblical the Rabbi that found it via use of computers would have dropped to his knees and be born again. So would the atheist who wrote the first book on the Bible Code. Last I checked he is still an atheist.”
Non-believers are blind to the truth, the same reason that when people look at the awesomeness of the plant we live on they put it down the billions of years of pot luck and not a creator which if you ever see the beauty of the world it makes you wonder how they can belive that.

6)Just because 3 satalities would help the NWO doesn’t mean the people who put them their are all involved. its like saying the creators of the Internet, computers, electronics, the telephone etc are all involved.

7) A lot of people have debunked what you have stated as reasons why Chuck Missler should be seen as a “false prophet” but still you will argue the point. “Ow read your bible more not watch them or why put your trust in a man, or people see him as an idol.” You seem to be turning this discussion in to an argument and that anyone that doesn’t take your side idolises Chuck therefore is against God, which is rubbish and would make any one that sticks to your side of the argument idol worshipers as well.

8) Also before you judge people take into account Mathew 7:2

9) In a christian discussion people need to be less proud and let their ears be open to what Gods saying and not what we want to hear.

I am still going to be listening to Chuck Missler and at the moment am loving the insight God is giving me through chucks videos about the creation and until i hear something that is wrong or God guides me away i will still use his teaching.

I would say to any one that has actually read through all these posts that if you are still undecided, watch some of his teachings (specially Genesis on YouTube) pray and decide for yourself

I hope that this message is not deleted and that the discussion can continue since it is important.

Michale

LOL, Fortunately your little picture helps to distinguish you from others, how about Michael T?

There are two or three Michaels now…it can become confusing…we are all different. Debs what do you suggest…maybe a name change or Michael I,II or III…lol.

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No, not at all. You think I am grasping at straws because you don’t understand what is going on in the world – you are blinded to the truth.

Wow… talk about grasping at straws. This article is asinine.

Hi there, interesting but at times fruitless discussion unfortunately because if anyone teaches as much stuff as Chuck Missler, then being human he is bound to make a lot of errors. I have personally listened to his Bible teaching and also his other material and there is a big difference between these 2 for a start. Anyone who addresses UFO’s or the Bible code and offers there opinions, will get tarnished somewhat. Expositional bible teaching is a lot safer. And having a gift of discernment doesn’t mean we are right about everything, or should become intolerant and impatient with those who are wrong. We all see in part. So, for me personally, i don’t know anything about African currencies or Chucks part in it (although I will investigate) but that doesn’t negate his solid Bible teaching (not that i agree with 100% as I don’t understand 100% to begin with). If we are going to persuade others though, I suggest we act in love and patience. For example regarding the tribulation, when i first became a Christian I had no idea what that what, let alone what pre-trib or post-trib or preterism was. Just because i do know doesn’t mean I’m all that more mature, just that I’ve got a bit more information. So, whilst doctrine is important and avoiding false teaching is, i know how much my views have changed over time as I learn more of God’s word. I pray that God will give you as much patience as discernment. That goes for me too. God bless you for your endeavours to serve him. But please don’t cut down others who may be attempting to do the same but not yet at the same point of discernment. Misguided sheep are not wolves in sheeps clothing. Those who promote false teachings are not the same as those who fall for them. I believed in word of faith for a short time until the Lord delivered me and gave me discernment. Finally, let our hope be in Christ, not Christianity. Let our love be toward God and not mammon. May we cry for the lost and ignorant not just tell them they are wrong. And may we not compromise on anything that is not from God…. Amen