Hmmmm…. What happened to all those positive confessions?
As Joel Osteen would most probably say,
“Ray, just SPEAK her back, be POSITIVE, CONFESS WHAT YOU WANT and the god in you will have to do what you say. Your WORDS have POWER. You do know however that if she does not come back you LACK FAITH. Wait. Here is my book: ‘Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to…’ oh why am I even showing you this, you have a copy, did you read it Ray? No wonder…”
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McCauley in for divorce No 2
2010-01-28
Johannesburg – Pastor Ray McCauley’s wife Zelda is going to divorce him, the Rhema Bible Church said on Thursday.
“The executive board of Rhema Bible Church and the International Federation of Christian Churches (IFCC) are sad to announce that Pastor Ray McCauley has received from Zelda notice of her intention to file for divorce,” church administrator Giet Khoza said in a statement.
Ray McCauley was “devastated”, but handling the matter “spiritually”.
The McCauleys had been married for 10 years. It was the third marriage for Zelda, a former model.
“Both the leadership of the IFCC and Rhema Bible Church are of the firm belief that divorce is not desirable and should be the last resort. However, they would like to respect Mrs Zelda McCauley’s decision to file for divorce.”
McCauley, a former bodybuilder, would in the meantime take time off work.
The couple’s marriage had been on the rocks before. But after lengthy mediation by church elders, the couple reconciled.
This is McCauley’s second divorce.
His first wife Lyndie filed for divorce in 2000, after 21 years of marriage.
- SAPA
Source: NEWS24
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Thanks to Elmarie for spotting this article
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I wonder if Lyndie, his first wife is remarried?
Jem
>>I wonder if Lyndie, his first wife is remarried?>>
Does it really matter??
I dont know either.
The point is here. He is a wolf in Sheeps clothing or what ? A sad, sad situation.
Galatians 5:9 Amplified
A little leaven (a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers) leavens the whole lump [it perverts the whole conception of faith or misleads the whole church].
# 2 Peter 2:1 Amplified
BUT ALSO [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Just to add to above Scripture.
1 Timothy 3 2Amplified Bible
2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation but must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect and temperate and self-controlled; [he must be] sensible and well behaved and dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable and qualified teacher,
Titus 1
1PAUL, A bond servant of God and an apostle (a special messenger) of Jesus Christ (the Messiah) to stimulate and promote the faith of God’s chosen ones and to lead them on to accurate discernment and recognition of and acquaintance with the Truth which belongs to and harmonizes with and tends to godliness,
2[Resting] in the hope of eternal life, [life] which the ever truthful God Who cannot deceive promised before the world or the ages of time began.
3And [now] in His own appointed time He has made manifest (made known) His Word and revealed it as His message through the preaching entrusted to me by command of God our Savior;
4To Titus, my true child according to a common (general) faith: Grace (favor and spiritual blessing) and [heart] peace from God the Father and the Lord Christ Jesus our Savior.
5For this reason I left you [behind] in Crete, that you might set right what was defective and finish what was left undone, and that you might appoint elders and set them over the churches (assemblies) in every city as I directed you.
6[These elders should be] men who are of unquestionable integrity and are irreproachable, the husband of [but] one wife, whose children are [well trained and are] believers, not open to the accusation of being loose in morals and conduct or unruly and disorderly.
7For the bishop (an overseer) as God’s steward must be blameless, not self-willed or arrogant or presumptuous; he must not be quick-tempered or given to drink or pugnacious (brawling, violent); he must not be grasping and greedy for filthy lucre (financial gain);
8But he must be hospitable (loving and a friend to believers, especially to strangers and foreigners); [he must be] a lover of goodness [of good people and good things], sober-minded (sensible, discreet), upright and fair-minded, a devout man and religiously correct, temperate and keeping himself in hand.
9He must hold fast to the sure and trustworthy Word of God as he was taught it, so that he may be able both to give stimulating instruction and encouragement in sound (wholesome) doctrine and to refute and convict those who contradict and oppose it [showing the wayward their error].
10For there are many disorderly and unruly men who are idle (vain, empty) and misleading talkers and self-deceivers and deceivers of others. [This is true] especially of those of the circumcision party [who have come over from Judaism].
11Their mouths must be stopped, for they are mentally distressing and subverting whole families by teaching what they ought not to teach, for the purpose of getting base advantage and disreputable gain.
12One of their [very] number, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, hurtful beasts, idle and lazy gluttons.
13And this account of them is [really] true. Because it is [true], rebuke them sharply [deal sternly, even severely with them], so that they may be sound in the faith and free from error,
14[And may show their soundness by] ceasing to give attention to Jewish myths and fables or to rules [laid down] by [mere] men who reject and turn their backs on the Truth.
15To the pure [in heart and conscience] all things are pure, but to the defiled and corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are defiled and polluted.
16They profess to know God [to recognize, perceive, and be acquainted with Him], but deny and disown and renounce Him by what they do; they are detestable and loathsome, unbelieving and disobedient and disloyal and rebellious, and [they are] unfit and worthless for good work (deed or enterprise) of any kind.
mmm, and I wonder why people in this category don’t just follow suite by example of our SP, JZuma?
whatever happened to the Scripture that says:
1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of ONE wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
and
1 Timothy 3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of ONE wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
this was actually expected… he has a history of a wondering eye, of a angry and aggressive spirit, and the women he choose, close their own eyes to that… or do they just see the riches and fame?….
I noticed in all articles about this that in both cases it was the women who initiated the divorce(s) and Ray just wanted to reconcile. Does he ever have a clue with what is wrong in the marriage(s) on his side? and if yes, is he working on it?
>> “Zelda, a straight-talking mother of three children by three fathers, was a member of McCauley’s Randburg congregation for 20 years before they married.
Raised in an orphanage in Bellville, north of Cape Town, she had been married twice before she exchanged vows with McCauley.” http://allsanews.com/43330/zelda-calls-it-a-day-with-ray.html
question rises: did Zelda just went on with her life every time, carrying into every new relationship the hurts and sins of the past?
>>> “Mrs McCauley has no claim on Rhema fortune
26 January 2008, 10:46
If Zelda McCauley divorces Rhema Bible Church leader Ray McCauley, she will exit the marriage with nothing.
This, according to a reliable source, is because she “had no clue” that she was married out of community of property and would therefore have no claim on the former bodybuilder’s multi-million rand estate.” http://www.capeargus.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=3571&fArticleId=vn20080126091925795C706323
>>> “The couple’s marriage had been on the rocks before. In 2008, News24 reported the couple’s marriage had “irretrievably broken down and divorce was imminent”.”
http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1109028
they then reconciled…
>>>”Guess what made her reconcile … a ‘lavish’ trip to Dubai!!” http://www.abelarde.com/wordpress/2008/01/15/sin-me-once-sin-me-twice/
for the sake of the Name of God, I pray this will be over quickly and that the Lord Himself will prevent both of them to marry ever again, especially Ray. he is sowing seed in the flesh, and in the flesh will reap it, with a whole congregation eating the fruit…
summed up in this good article:
Monday, February 04, 2008 – McCauley’s church divided over marital woes : http://alphacc.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccauleys-church-divided-over-marital.html
but it is happening all over the church. have a look at this article:
“Ds. Walther Philander, herder van die VGK Piketberg en sy vrou, Amanda, se egskeiding en sy beweerde buite-egtelike verhouding met ‘n gemeentelid het die gemeente op dié Swartlanddorp in twee geskeur.” – http://jv.news24.com//Rapport/Kaap-Rapport/0,,752-799_2259130,00.html
I have no knowledge up to date that Lyndie is married again.
Every day hundreds of couples go through divorce. sadly. not all is in the public eye like R.McC. Would the leader of one of SA’s biggest churches have the guts to follow what the Word of God says about this all, or lead an immoral life (again)?
cecilia
I think it is absolutely disgusting that Ray McCauley is divorcing for a second time after all the confessions of faith and all. You have really disappointed me. I have watched the sage of your first divorce. While Lyndie was forced into divorce so that you could openly continue your affair with Zelda. God saw what you did to her, how you pinned that divorce on Lyndie and caused her to carry your shame. Well,it seems that you are reaping what you are sowing. Good luck Pastor Ray, your Jezebel has destroyed your name along with your church.
Cecilia
Thanks for more confirmation :-)
Maybe he will join a cult like his buddy Jayz and marry 6 woman? I have lost respect for him …Not because he is divorcing that catstrophy of a wife (he can divorce as many as he wants)….however it still gets me that he endorses the world parliment of churches and thats why this time he has lost my vote…
Lindy is still single and working at Osteen’s church she writes on facebook alot about how wonderful ray is ect …
Judge not, so that you not be judged, for the same measure you use to judge, it will be applied to you.
Perhaps we should rather pray for Ray and Zelda and Lindy and for their well being.
Yes, they may have not done according to the Word of God, but tell me of one person who has beside Jesus.
We all try and continue to fail till the day we see Him face to face then we will be like Him.
George
Where is anyone judging their sin? I am however showing Rhema up for the false gospel they preach.
Lydie never got re-married and is still serving the Lord.
See her website at http://www.lyndiemccauley.com/
She inspires me and many girls I believe.
My prayer is that the LORD bring out the good out of this whole mess in Pastor Ray’s life.
God is a merciful and forgiving God. Yes, He disciplines His loved ones.
My prayer goes out to Pastor Ray, Zelda, Lyndie and their children on this one.
We have confidence in God’s grace at all times.
Wow all this judgemental behavior and hostility over another mans problem is just as wrong as what you seem to judge Pastor Ray for. He has a problem in his life. Take the log out of your own before you judge the speck in your brothers people!! No one is saying he does not have to answer to the Lord for this. But who made you the judge?
Kathy
Where did I judge him? But thank you for judging me because you mis-read.
What I did do was make a point of pointing out what he preaches to his congregation and that is Word of Faith / positive confession gospel by using the satire ‘conversation between him and Joel Osteen’. And because of what he preaches he therefore needs to practise what he preaches . Because of what he preaches, he should never have landed in trouble. So because of what is happening to him, he has proved that the rubbish he preaches is completely false.
Kathy
Hmm Please read and study your Bible. You will find what the NT says, about how a leader should lead his life according to Scripture and lead us as sheep. If he goes of the track the Word states clearly what a leaders duties are. Ray is not setting an example for his church as a leader.
This is not about being judgemental or hostile. Ray is busy leading the sheep astray full stop. That is not negotiable when it comes to the Word of God. We must be warned about these things you see. We can only pray for him.
Why are we shocked about Ray? By their fruits you will know them. I use to go to Rhema and GOD called me out, having said that I would not like to see anyone fall and I would like to see us Christans pray for those who have fallen away.
Ray made a mistake by inviting Zuma but even worse was when he gave that mic to him. Zuma is a Pagan, what was he doing there.My brother was Rays neighbour down in Durban. Enough said.
Just on another note we should be stoning these people, and i dont judge them I judge their false Gospel.
louise
Absolutely. We are commanded to test and judge the words that people speak, i.e. what they teach. We do not judge a person.
Louise
Stone them? You mean mark them and avoid them?
Thanks Maggie and Yolandi re the info regarding Lyndie.
Ray McCauley is just one of the “many many” false teachers out there.
@ Kathy. We are called to test all spirits. You may see it as me judging. If I am the Holy Spirit will guide me into all truths as I seek only Christs Truth. Thank you for your concern.