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Ray McCauley: Divorce No.2
Hmmmm…. What happened to all those positive confessions?
As Joel Osteen would most probably say,
“Ray, just SPEAK her back, be POSITIVE, CONFESS WHAT YOU WANT and the god in you will have to do what you say. Your WORDS have POWER. You do know however that if she does not come back you LACK FAITH. Wait. Here is my book: ‘Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to…’ oh why am I even showing you this, you have a copy, did you read it Ray? No wonder…”
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McCauley in for divorce No 2
2010-01-28
Johannesburg – Pastor Ray McCauley’s wife Zelda is going to divorce him, the Rhema Bible Church said on Thursday.
“The executive board of Rhema Bible Church and the International Federation of Christian Churches (IFCC) are sad to announce that Pastor Ray McCauley has received from Zelda notice of her intention to file for divorce,” church administrator Giet Khoza said in a statement.
Ray McCauley was “devastated”, but handling the matter “spiritually”.
The McCauleys had been married for 10 years. It was the third marriage for Zelda, a former model.
“Both the leadership of the IFCC and Rhema Bible Church are of the firm belief that divorce is not desirable and should be the last resort. However, they would like to respect Mrs Zelda McCauley’s decision to file for divorce.”
McCauley, a former bodybuilder, would in the meantime take time off work.
The couple’s marriage had been on the rocks before. But after lengthy mediation by church elders, the couple reconciled.
This is McCauley’s second divorce.
His first wife Lyndie filed for divorce in 2000, after 21 years of marriage.
- SAPA
Source: NEWS24
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I wonder if Lyndie, his first wife is remarried?
Jem
>>I wonder if Lyndie, his first wife is remarried?>>
Does it really matter??
I dont know either.
The point is here. He is a wolf in Sheeps clothing or what ? A sad, sad situation.
Galatians 5:9 Amplified
A little leaven (a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers) leavens the whole lump [it perverts the whole conception of faith or misleads the whole church].
# 2 Peter 2:1 Amplified
BUT ALSO [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Just to add to above Scripture.
1 Timothy 3 2Amplified Bible
2 Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation but must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect and temperate and self-controlled; [he must be] sensible and well behaved and dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable and qualified teacher,
Titus 1
1PAUL, A bond servant of God and an apostle (a special messenger) of Jesus Christ (the Messiah) to stimulate and promote the faith of God’s chosen ones and to lead them on to accurate discernment and recognition of and acquaintance with the Truth which belongs to and harmonizes with and tends to godliness,
2[Resting] in the hope of eternal life, [life] which the ever truthful God Who cannot deceive promised before the world or the ages of time began.
3And [now] in His own appointed time He has made manifest (made known) His Word and revealed it as His message through the preaching entrusted to me by command of God our Savior;
4To Titus, my true child according to a common (general) faith: Grace (favor and spiritual blessing) and [heart] peace from God the Father and the Lord Christ Jesus our Savior.
5For this reason I left you [behind] in Crete, that you might set right what was defective and finish what was left undone, and that you might appoint elders and set them over the churches (assemblies) in every city as I directed you.
6[These elders should be] men who are of unquestionable integrity and are irreproachable, the husband of [but] one wife, whose children are [well trained and are] believers, not open to the accusation of being loose in morals and conduct or unruly and disorderly.
7For the bishop (an overseer) as God’s steward must be blameless, not self-willed or arrogant or presumptuous; he must not be quick-tempered or given to drink or pugnacious (brawling, violent); he must not be grasping and greedy for filthy lucre (financial gain);
8But he must be hospitable (loving and a friend to believers, especially to strangers and foreigners); [he must be] a lover of goodness [of good people and good things], sober-minded (sensible, discreet), upright and fair-minded, a devout man and religiously correct, temperate and keeping himself in hand.
9He must hold fast to the sure and trustworthy Word of God as he was taught it, so that he may be able both to give stimulating instruction and encouragement in sound (wholesome) doctrine and to refute and convict those who contradict and oppose it [showing the wayward their error].
10For there are many disorderly and unruly men who are idle (vain, empty) and misleading talkers and self-deceivers and deceivers of others. [This is true] especially of those of the circumcision party [who have come over from Judaism].
11Their mouths must be stopped, for they are mentally distressing and subverting whole families by teaching what they ought not to teach, for the purpose of getting base advantage and disreputable gain.
12One of their [very] number, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, hurtful beasts, idle and lazy gluttons.
13And this account of them is [really] true. Because it is [true], rebuke them sharply [deal sternly, even severely with them], so that they may be sound in the faith and free from error,
14[And may show their soundness by] ceasing to give attention to Jewish myths and fables or to rules [laid down] by [mere] men who reject and turn their backs on the Truth.
15To the pure [in heart and conscience] all things are pure, but to the defiled and corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are defiled and polluted.
16They profess to know God [to recognize, perceive, and be acquainted with Him], but deny and disown and renounce Him by what they do; they are detestable and loathsome, unbelieving and disobedient and disloyal and rebellious, and [they are] unfit and worthless for good work (deed or enterprise) of any kind.
mmm, and I wonder why people in this category don’t just follow suite by example of our SP, JZuma?
whatever happened to the Scripture that says:
1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of ONE wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
and
1 Timothy 3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of ONE wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
this was actually expected… he has a history of a wondering eye, of a angry and aggressive spirit, and the women he choose, close their own eyes to that… or do they just see the riches and fame?….
I noticed in all articles about this that in both cases it was the women who initiated the divorce(s) and Ray just wanted to reconcile. Does he ever have a clue with what is wrong in the marriage(s) on his side? and if yes, is he working on it?
>> “Zelda, a straight-talking mother of three children by three fathers, was a member of McCauley’s Randburg congregation for 20 years before they married.
Raised in an orphanage in Bellville, north of Cape Town, she had been married twice before she exchanged vows with McCauley.” http://allsanews.com/43330/zelda-calls-it-a-day-with-ray.html
question rises: did Zelda just went on with her life every time, carrying into every new relationship the hurts and sins of the past?
>>> “Mrs McCauley has no claim on Rhema fortune
26 January 2008, 10:46
If Zelda McCauley divorces Rhema Bible Church leader Ray McCauley, she will exit the marriage with nothing.
This, according to a reliable source, is because she “had no clue” that she was married out of community of property and would therefore have no claim on the former bodybuilder’s multi-million rand estate.” http://www.capeargus.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=3571&fArticleId=vn20080126091925795C706323
>>> “The couple’s marriage had been on the rocks before. In 2008, News24 reported the couple’s marriage had “irretrievably broken down and divorce was imminent”.”
http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1109028
they then reconciled…
>>>”Guess what made her reconcile … a ‘lavish’ trip to Dubai!!” http://www.abelarde.com/wordpress/2008/01/15/sin-me-once-sin-me-twice/
for the sake of the Name of God, I pray this will be over quickly and that the Lord Himself will prevent both of them to marry ever again, especially Ray. he is sowing seed in the flesh, and in the flesh will reap it, with a whole congregation eating the fruit…
summed up in this good article:
Monday, February 04, 2008 – McCauley’s church divided over marital woes : http://alphacc.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccauleys-church-divided-over-marital.html
but it is happening all over the church. have a look at this article:
“Ds. Walther Philander, herder van die VGK Piketberg en sy vrou, Amanda, se egskeiding en sy beweerde buite-egtelike verhouding met ‘n gemeentelid het die gemeente op dié Swartlanddorp in twee geskeur.” – http://jv.news24.com//Rapport/Kaap-Rapport/0,,752-799_2259130,00.html
I have no knowledge up to date that Lyndie is married again.
Every day hundreds of couples go through divorce. sadly. not all is in the public eye like R.McC. Would the leader of one of SA’s biggest churches have the guts to follow what the Word of God says about this all, or lead an immoral life (again)?
cecilia
I think it is absolutely disgusting that Ray McCauley is divorcing for a second time after all the confessions of faith and all. You have really disappointed me. I have watched the sage of your first divorce. While Lyndie was forced into divorce so that you could openly continue your affair with Zelda. God saw what you did to her, how you pinned that divorce on Lyndie and caused her to carry your shame. Well,it seems that you are reaping what you are sowing. Good luck Pastor Ray, your Jezebel has destroyed your name along with your church.
Cecilia
Thanks for more confirmation :-)
Maybe he will join a cult like his buddy Jayz and marry 6 woman? I have lost respect for him …Not because he is divorcing that catstrophy of a wife (he can divorce as many as he wants)….however it still gets me that he endorses the world parliment of churches and thats why this time he has lost my vote…
Lindy is still single and working at Osteen’s church she writes on facebook alot about how wonderful ray is ect …
Judge not, so that you not be judged, for the same measure you use to judge, it will be applied to you.
Perhaps we should rather pray for Ray and Zelda and Lindy and for their well being.
Yes, they may have not done according to the Word of God, but tell me of one person who has beside Jesus.
We all try and continue to fail till the day we see Him face to face then we will be like Him.
George
Where is anyone judging their sin? I am however showing Rhema up for the false gospel they preach.
Lydie never got re-married and is still serving the Lord.
See her website at http://www.lyndiemccauley.com/
She inspires me and many girls I believe.
My prayer is that the LORD bring out the good out of this whole mess in Pastor Ray’s life.
God is a merciful and forgiving God. Yes, He disciplines His loved ones.
My prayer goes out to Pastor Ray, Zelda, Lyndie and their children on this one.
We have confidence in God’s grace at all times.
Wow all this judgemental behavior and hostility over another mans problem is just as wrong as what you seem to judge Pastor Ray for. He has a problem in his life. Take the log out of your own before you judge the speck in your brothers people!! No one is saying he does not have to answer to the Lord for this. But who made you the judge?
Kathy
Where did I judge him? But thank you for judging me because you mis-read.
What I did do was make a point of pointing out what he preaches to his congregation and that is Word of Faith / positive confession gospel by using the satire ‘conversation between him and Joel Osteen’. And because of what he preaches he therefore needs to practise what he preaches . Because of what he preaches, he should never have landed in trouble. So because of what is happening to him, he has proved that the rubbish he preaches is completely false.
Kathy
Hmm Please read and study your Bible. You will find what the NT says, about how a leader should lead his life according to Scripture and lead us as sheep. If he goes of the track the Word states clearly what a leaders duties are. Ray is not setting an example for his church as a leader.
This is not about being judgemental or hostile. Ray is busy leading the sheep astray full stop. That is not negotiable when it comes to the Word of God. We must be warned about these things you see. We can only pray for him.
Why are we shocked about Ray? By their fruits you will know them. I use to go to Rhema and GOD called me out, having said that I would not like to see anyone fall and I would like to see us Christans pray for those who have fallen away.
Ray made a mistake by inviting Zuma but even worse was when he gave that mic to him. Zuma is a Pagan, what was he doing there.My brother was Rays neighbour down in Durban. Enough said.
Just on another note we should be stoning these people, and i dont judge them I judge their false Gospel.
louise
Absolutely. We are commanded to test and judge the words that people speak, i.e. what they teach. We do not judge a person.
Louise
Stone them? You mean mark them and avoid them?
Thanks Maggie and Yolandi re the info regarding Lyndie.
Ray McCauley is just one of the “many many” false teachers out there.
@ Kathy. We are called to test all spirits. You may see it as me judging. If I am the Holy Spirit will guide me into all truths as I seek only Christs Truth. Thank you for your concern.
Its great to see the amount of **love** you have for someone who is down. The reality of divorce is families do get hurt and offended. Did you not ever get to the point of separation or discontentment in your marriages? You see divorce can be forgiven and one day you may see Ray in Heaven. Like we say in South Africa attack the system not the people. By the way, by God’s grace I am still married.(first one) How about praying for God to open their hearts and speak to them during this time. Ray has done a lot of good. We should not look at a speck of dust on a white sheet but also notice the white!
Clive
Ray is far from down. Read the other articles on him on this website, if you want to that is… And I said nothing about his divorce. I spoke about the false gospel that he preaches to his congregation, of speaking faith and God shall jump at your command. Well it didnt seem to work so well with Ray did it.
tHE WORD OF GOD SAYS:ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD,PASTOR RAY YOU ARE STILL VERY SPECIAL TO GOD, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE YOU, JESUS LOVES YOU SO MUCH, DUST YOURSELF UP AND CONTINUE SERVING THE LORD, AND SHAME THE DEVIL,HE IS UNDER OUR FEET.
You know Grace is not earned through your dirty works or performance. It is freely given by God!Sadly the world does not understand this,…
When Jesus died on the cross and said “Father forgive them because they do not know what they doing”… it included the whole world (even you, passing judgement (LAW which does not make you righteous before God – PHARISEES??) JESUS’S BLOOD is what makes you righteous before God!!
So keep throwing stones because Jesus still loves you and is waiting for you to bow your knees to Him so that He can freely give to you to receive the same Grace extended to every other born again christian!
Chantal
Thank you for not judging us. If you want to play the Pharisee card, you will have to be more specific. Please read Todd Wilken: Playing the Pharisee Card and we will listen if you point where we have gone wrong.
By the way, are you aware that Joel Osteen if very heavy on Law and light on the Gospel? What is your opinion about that?
Chantal
I do hope you have a Bible? If so please go and read up about False teachers and False Prophets. I will help you a little bit :-). You know it is important to test every spirit to see if they proceed from God. But this is not preached in churches today and it is so sad you know. Take heed to the warnings in Scripture about wolves in sheep clothing Chantal.
“Is salvation by faith alone, or by faith plus works?”
Answer: This is perhaps the most important question in all of Christian theology. This question is the cause of the Reformation, the split between the Protestant churches and Catholic Church. This question is a key difference between biblical Christianity and most of the “Christian” cults. Is salvation by faith alone, or by faith plus works? Am I saved just by believing in Jesus, or do I have to believe in Jesus and do certain things?
The question of faith alone or faith plus works is made difficult by some hard-to-reconcile Bible passages. Compare Romans 3:28, 5:1 and Galatians 3:24 with James 2:24. Some see a difference between Paul (salvation is by faith alone) and James (salvation is by faith plus works). Paul dogmatically says that justification is by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), while James appears to be saying that justification is by faith plus works. This apparent problem is answered by examining what exactly James is talking about. James is refuting the belief that a person can have faith without producing any good works (James 2:17-18). James is emphasizing the point that genuine faith in Christ will produce a changed life and good works (James 2:20-26). James is not saying that justification is by faith plus works, but rather that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his/her life. If a person claims to be a believer, but has no good works in his/her life, then he/she likely does not have genuine faith in Christ (James 2:14, 17, 20, 26).
Paul says the same thing in his writings. The good fruit believers should have in their lives is listed in Galatians 5:22-23. Immediately after telling us that we are saved by faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8-9), Paul informs us that we were created to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Paul expects just as much of a changed life as James does: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17). James and Paul do not disagree in their teaching regarding salvation. They approach the same subject from different perspectives. Paul simply emphasized that justification is by faith alone while James put emphasis on the fact that genuine faith in Christ produces good works.
http://www.gotquestions.org/salvation-faith-alone.html
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“Should Christians judge the teachings of their leaders?”
Answer: As Christians, we are commanded against following teachers blindly, but are told rather to “Test everything; hold on to the good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). The apostle Peter warns us in 2 Peter 2:1-3 that there will be false teachers in our day just as there were false teachers in his day. Among their false teachings is a denial of the sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross to take away sin, which is a common theme among cultists today. Another characteristic of false teachers is the greed which motivates them in everything they do. Paul offers a similar warning to the Ephesian elders in Acts 20:29-31, calling the false teachers “savage wolves” who mercilessly attempt to destroy the faith of the sheep and draw them away from the Shepherd. Paul warned them continually, pleading with them night and day to be on their guard against such deceivers.
From these passages, we see clearly that we are to distinguish between true and false teachers. How then are we to do that? First, as Paul instructs the Ephesians, we are to “no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming” (Ephesians 4:14). Rather, we are to “become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ” and we do this by “the knowledge of the Son of God” (v. 13). The knowledge of Christ can only be obtained through the Word of God, and it is by that Word that we distinguish between the true and the false.
In Matthew 7:15-20, Jesus offers some critical advice in discerning who is a false prophet: “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruits you will recognize them.” Plainly stated, is the teacher’s life marked by a progressive conformity to the likeness of Christ? Is the teacher bearing the fruits of the Spirit? Just as only good trees produce good fruit, so do only true teachers of Christ display the fruit of the Spirit—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23), whereas false prophets and teachers display the acts of their sinful natures (Galatians 5:19-22). By these fruits, we recognize true and false teachers.
Secondly, does the teaching that is being presented conform to the message as proclaimed by the early church and the Apostles? As Paul writes to the church in Galatia: “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” These are harsh words indeed that Paul has for the false teachers, but eternal condemnation is what they store up for themselves until the day of God’s wrath (Romans 2:5-6).
The apostle John tells us in his first epistle (1 John 4:1-6) how we are to discern which spirits are from God. “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.”
It is of utmost importance that Christians are well-grounded in the Scriptures so that they are able to discern which teachers speak from God and which are false in their proclamation. Only then can we reject what is false and “hold on to the good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
http://www.gotquestions.org/judge-teachings-leaders.html
Chantal
Sorry but Ray MacCauley’s name is already linked to other false teachers world wide. Now when that happens surely one must ask why? We cannot just sit back and accept some one is from God even it they say they are. We are also told in the Word to take heed and note of the deceivers.
http://www.intotruth.org/wof/wells1.html