Bubba, don’t you know that Satan knows the Word of God very well? He quoted it to the Lord Jesus in trying to tempt Him. There is a BIG difference between being able to quote the Bible and actually taking it to heart and applying it. He has not surrendered himself to Jesus Christ and he doesn’t BELIEVE the Bible because if he did he would have to acknowledge that Jesus is God and not an ordinary man and that Jesus was raised from the dead and that Jesus paid the price for our sins. He is lost as lost can be.

bubba g

Yes you can’t separate them from one another. Jesus is the Word. But it still does not mean the man KNOWS JESUS CHRIST and has ACCEPTED HIM as SAVIOUR.

i stopped reading your comments after your first “note,” so all i want to comment on is what precedes that. I just recently returned from a trip to the Holy Land, where my guide was a Jew. He believes in Christ as a man and a prophet, but not as The Son of God. That man knows God’s word better that most Christians, but does not know Christ as his Savior. What are your thoughts on this because as you say “Because The Word of God is Jesus Christ – you CAN NOT separate the one from the other.”

You are absolutely right to discern this about Ron Martoia. He was my pastor for about 3 years, and wow has God taught me discernment after being a part of his church. The other two pastors that came after him were teaching the same rubbish as he. He is teaching about the mystic fathers, dessert fathers, labrynths, silence, contemplative prayer..all part of the pagan religion that the catholic system brought together at Constantine’s decree. Ron Martoia is now into hinduism, yoga…meditation..the demonic influence that he gets through all of the different practices outside of the Word of God has led him completely down a different path and away from God’s truth. This man is a false teacher and I believe also a false convert because he is blind.

Corruption of the next generation. Nice. Beth Moore, respected Bible teacher right in the thick of things. Beautiful………doing Satan’s work.

College kids feeling passion for conference

By Steve Almasy, CNN

The Passion conference is more than just a huge gathering of college-age kids, organizers say. the recent Atlanta conference was a call for the next generation to make Jesus a focal point in their lives and to share that passion with others, they said.

“Church was never meant to be an island of self-indulgence, but a missional community of Jesus-followers so in love with Him that they can do nothing else but carry His name to the world,” pastor Louie Giglio said in an e-mail this week.

The event drew more than 22,000 students to the Georgia capital’s convention center and to Philips Arena. It was even more successful than Giglio had hoped for.

“It is truly inspiring to see a generation that is so hungry for an authentic encounter with Jesus … one that exchanges consumer-driven Christ for Christ-centered obedience,” said Giglio.

One of the main spots at the conference, a convention floor full of booths for 10 carefully selected charities that the Passion movement works with throughout the year. The call went out to the college kids to spend time at the exhibits and find one that moved them.

On a Monday night, the third of a four-day event, thousands of kids dressed in t-shirts and jeans weaved their way through the exhibits. They took brochures and enthusiastically chatted as volunteers explained what each cause was about.

The stereotype is that college kids never have much money, but these kids dug deep. Some even brought in containers filled with money they had raised or saved.

Some donated what little money they had, some brought material goods, many gave from there hearts, officials said. Every charitable goal was surpassed, not by a little but by a lot.

The goal was to raise $500,000 for the charities, but after the conference, Do Something Now, the fundraising campaign of the Passion Conferences, announced that it had raised $1.1 million for Compassion International, Hope International, Haiti Transformed, International Justice Mission, Bibles Unbound, World Made Flesh, Joint Aid Management, Cure International, Living Water International, and the Atlanta Mission and City of Refuge (kids brought socks and towels for the homeless).

Giglio says it is compelling to see 18- to 22-year-olds giving to the causes that matter most.

“The fact that 22,000 university-aged young people would journey to Atlanta and gather for the name of Jesus is staggering in and of itself,” he wrote. “But the fact that, as a result of His grace in their lives, they would pool their resources to the tune of $1.1 million to fund 10 local and global causes signifies a massive shift.”

Students got to hear from pastor John Piper, who returned from an eight-month leave of absence, Francis Chan, and Beth Moore. The students sat intently, many taking notes, writing down the references to scripture passages. Afterward, they left, so moved barely a word was uttered.

They also were treated to warm up music from Chris Tomlin and his fellow artists on the sixstepsrecords label. The resulting live album (yet to be titled) will be released March 8. Last year’s CD went to No. 1 on the Christian charts and featured the radio single “Our God.”

A second Passion event is scheduled for April 1 in Fort Worth, Texas. Tickets are still available, a spokesperson said. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/11/college-kids-feeling-passion-for-conference/

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Students got to hear from John Piper who was out during those 8 months making best friends with Rick Warren who is NOW doing this: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/01/12/rick-warren-a-new-age-prescription-for-your-health/ WARNING!!!

Annuck, thank the Lord for that “check” in your spirit. Maybe you will also get a “check” in your spirit about the church you are attending. Whoever introduced this video needs to be informed about it to protect the other sheep who did not get that “chedk” in their spirit. Don’t keep this to yourself – ask the Lord when to speak up about this and how and to whom. But don’t be silent – that “check” wasn’t just for you – it was meant to share and protect others. Let us know what happens. And be on the alert for further errors because leaven grows.

Annunk

Do you know what is deeper and more thought provoking than Louie Giglio’s silly DVD’s? The Bible :)

My Bible study at church yesterday included a marvelous DVD filmed in Houston which showcased Louie Giglio (of whom I’d never heard).

It was very, very deep – very thought provoking – all about the universe and its “vastness”. I was about to order copies of the DVD online after service when I got a “check” in my spirit and got a practically audible voice directing me to “google Louie Giglio and Contemplative prayer”.

His DVD was great and I’d still love to order it… but that ‘check’ I got tells me NO. No because we’ve been warned in scripture about a huge falling away in the end times – that ‘if it were possible, it would fool even the very elect’..

I loved Louie’s lesson, but emerging/contemplative/new age is a little bit too scary for me so I’ll just keep my distance and keep on reading His word.

RICK WARREN AND JOHN PIPER TOGETHER: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/10/15/john-piper-and-rick-warren-together-at-desiring-god-conference-2010/

JOHN PIPER IS LOUIE GIGLIO’S MENTOR