Comments on: Andrew Strom – Trying to Transform Africa with False Christianity http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/ A Genuine Christian Blog for Genuine Christians Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Deborah (Discerning the World) http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-7907 Deborah (Discerning the World) Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:56:17 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-7907 Jerry Odonell <blockquote>>> Here is real deal.... Every real move of God was birth not preached till it was making a manifestation thru transfigured vessels. We need corporate Intercession and prayer till we become a Hot Flame as the early church had. Flames leeping off EVERYONE of them. Until we have this we are bogus. Jesus said my house will be called a HOUSE of Prayer in all NATIONS. Lord help us begin a Tabernacle not made with Hands today.</blockquote> How about this deal: if you can go to the bible and come back with scriptural verses for the below in the context that you <em>remove the idea that you are Jewish </em> in other words, that the current church has not replaced Israel, it would be much appreciated. If you do this you will clearly see that your incorrect interpretation will become a correct interpretation of scripture. 1) Every real move of God was birth not preached till it was making a manifestation thru transfigured vessels 2) We need corporate Intercession and prayer till we become a Hot Flame as the early church had 3) Flames leeping off EVERYONE of them - Until we have this we are bogus 4) Lord help us begin a Tabernacle not made with Hands today Jerry Odonell

>> Here is real deal…. Every real move of God was birth not preached till it was making a manifestation thru transfigured vessels. We need corporate Intercession and prayer till we become a Hot Flame as the early church had. Flames leeping off EVERYONE of them. Until we have this we are bogus. Jesus said my house will be called a HOUSE of Prayer in all NATIONS. Lord help us begin a Tabernacle not made with Hands today.

How about this deal: if you can go to the bible and come back with scriptural verses for the below in the context that you remove the idea that you are Jewish in other words, that the current church has not replaced Israel, it would be much appreciated. If you do this you will clearly see that your incorrect interpretation will become a correct interpretation of scripture.

1) Every real move of God was birth not preached till it was making a manifestation thru transfigured vessels
2) We need corporate Intercession and prayer till we become a Hot Flame as the early church had
3) Flames leeping off EVERYONE of them – Until we have this we are bogus
4) Lord help us begin a Tabernacle not made with Hands today

]]> By: Jerry Odonnell http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-7867 Jerry Odonnell Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:32:39 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-7867 Here is real deal.... Every real move of God was birth not preached till it was making a manifestation thru transfigured vessels. We need corporate Intercession and prayer till we become a Hot Flame as the early church had. Flames leeping off EVERYONE of them. Until we have this we are bogus. Jesus said my house will be called a HOUSE of Prayer in all NATIONS. Lord help us begin a Tabernacle not made with Hands today. Here is real deal…. Every real move of God was birth not preached till it was making a manifestation thru transfigured vessels. We need corporate Intercession and prayer till we become a Hot Flame as the early church had. Flames leeping off EVERYONE of them. Until we have this we are bogus. Jesus said my house will be called a HOUSE of Prayer in all NATIONS. Lord help us begin a Tabernacle not made with Hands today.

]]> By: Pieter http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2567 Pieter Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:38:57 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2567 Yep, I'm Afrikaans and live in pta east and I can tell you allot of people are either in NG Moreleta or Lewende woord pta east. Some Afrikaans people are also in Hatfield Christian Church. Three biggies forming a triangle! And then there is also money in pta east! (non for me though...*snif*...lol) but without generalizing there is allot of rich folk. And funny when driving past these churches on a Sunday morning its one 4X4 after the other pulling. Yeah I might be generalizing....but it does seems that way. Maybe why the prosperity and live YOUR life now is preached in these places. anyhow just my 4 cents... Yep, I’m Afrikaans and live in pta east and I can tell you allot of people are either in NG Moreleta or Lewende woord pta east. Some Afrikaans people are also in Hatfield Christian Church. Three biggies forming a triangle!
And then there is also money in pta east! (non for me though…*snif*…lol) but without generalizing there is allot of rich folk. And funny when driving past these churches on a Sunday morning its one 4X4 after the other pulling. Yeah I might be generalizing….but it does seems that way. Maybe why the prosperity and live YOUR life now is preached in these places.

anyhow just my 4 cents…

]]> By: Elmarie http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2542 Elmarie Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:48:06 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2542 Deborah They claim to have 8000 members in Pretoria east only. I think, this is the reason why the old type "N G" churches and "Hervormers" are actually running dry. The new Afrikaans generation loves this type of church. Also included is the lights, camera, action type of services. All focus on the man on pulpit, signs and wonders and not The Bible,or Jesus !!! and they also preach good news only, so called "what the people want to hear". agh man I can go on on .....It has become very much a playground for the so called rich,(very very dangerous play ground) it is the in thing .....there I go again...lol lol Deborah
They claim to have 8000 members in Pretoria east
only. I think, this is the reason why the old type “N G” churches and “Hervormers” are actually running dry. The new Afrikaans generation loves this type of church. Also included is the lights, camera, action type of services. All focus on the man on pulpit, signs and wonders and not The Bible,or Jesus !!! and they also preach good news only, so called “what the people want to hear”. agh man I can go on on …..It has become very much a playground for the so called rich,(very very dangerous play ground) it is the in thing …..there I go again…lol lol

]]> By: Deborah (Discerning the World) http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2541 Deborah (Discerning the World) Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:31:05 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2541 Elmarie Yeah this is part of the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) they have 'schools for signs and wonders', prophetic schools, trips to heaven schools. Insanity. What I find interesting though is this is an Afrikaans church. Makes you wonder how many Afrikaans people are really Christian, if they are so easily swayed from their conservativeness to new age. Elmarie

Yeah this is part of the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) they have ‘schools for signs and wonders’, prophetic schools, trips to heaven schools. Insanity.

What I find interesting though is this is an Afrikaans church. Makes you wonder how many Afrikaans people are really Christian, if they are so easily swayed from their conservativeness to new age.

]]> By: Elmarie http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2538 Elmarie Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:08:03 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2538 I found this church website <a href="www.lewendewoord.co.za" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.lewendewoord.co.za </a>they have a "prophetic school" as advertised on website. Any comments ??? What will jump up next !!!!! I found this church website http://www.lewendewoord.co.za they have a “prophetic school” as advertised on website.

Any comments ??? What will jump up next !!!!!

]]> By: Pieter http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2530 Pieter Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:57:59 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2530 Hi DTW! Informative as always, I just cant get how some-one is called a "Christian" but still believes in witchcraft???? Its like supporting both the bulls and the stormers! Two opposites, belive in both darkness and light? In any way of to work.....have a nice day! Hi DTW!

Informative as always, I just cant get how some-one is called a “Christian” but still believes in witchcraft???? Its like supporting both the bulls and the stormers! Two opposites, belive in both darkness and light?

In any way of to work…..have a nice day!

]]> By: Deborah (Discerning the World) http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2528 Deborah (Discerning the World) Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:09:11 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2528 Jean Absolutely right!! I am going to post his articles on his revelations about 'street revials' and music being the ministries of the future. Jean

Absolutely right!! I am going to post his articles on his revelations about ‘street revials’ and music being the ministries of the future.

]]> By: thegroundworks http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2522 thegroundworks Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:15:21 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2522 [EDITED: TheGroundWorks is part of the DISCERNAMENTALIST MAFIA WEBSITE who go out of their way to insult JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD and write utter rubbish about good Discernment websites like: Apprising Ministries, Christian Research Net, Herescope, Slice of Laodicea, etc] -------- thegroundworks Hello, I cannot find an email address anywhere on this site and for now will reflect publicly. Here are a few suggestions on Discernment... 1) Text on left side bleeds together (gives site a convoluted look). Prob. not your intention, but you should look into it to rectify. 2) Some articles are long, wordy, long on opinion, short on thought and reflection. Some articles are short, but without any indepth thought. Go deep(er) 3) Your comments come off as haughty and arrogant (it may not be your intention, but it is a turn off) Already too many notorious sites with this attitude....they don't build up only tear down. Aim for greatness...too seek to be a great site, be down to earth! You come across sometimes and angry and frustrated. 4) RE: Trying to Transform...Africa - you preach about the need to be 100% about the bible (ie accuracy) therefore remember REVELATION has no 's' , not REVELATIONS. If you are going to preach on being 100% biblical...then it matters 5) Shorten your rules. You have more rules that some legal briefs. Finally, on the flip side, you do make a good point about North Americans coming to Africa to make 'judgments/assessments' about Africa. That would certainly get under my skin and I concede and totally get what you are saying. -------- [EDITED: TheGroundWorks is part of the DISCERNAMENTALIST MAFIA WEBSITE who go out of their way to insult JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD and write utter rubbish about good Discernment websites like: Apprising Ministries, Christian Research Net, Herescope, Slice of Laodicea, etc]

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thegroundworks

Hello, I cannot find an email address anywhere on this site and for now will reflect publicly.

Here are a few suggestions on Discernment…

1) Text on left side bleeds together (gives site a convoluted look). Prob. not your intention, but you should look into it to rectify.
2) Some articles are long, wordy, long on opinion, short on thought and reflection. Some articles are short, but without any indepth thought. Go deep(er)
3) Your comments come off as haughty and arrogant (it may not be your intention, but it is a turn off) Already too many notorious sites with this attitude….they don’t build up only tear down. Aim for greatness…too seek to be a great site, be down to earth! You come across sometimes and angry and frustrated.
4) RE: Trying to Transform…Africa – you preach about the need to be 100% about the bible (ie accuracy) therefore remember REVELATION has no ‘s’ , not REVELATIONS. If you are going to preach on being 100% biblical…then it matters
5) Shorten your rules. You have more rules that some legal briefs.

Finally, on the flip side, you do make a good point about North Americans coming to Africa to make ‘judgments/assessments’ about Africa. That would certainly get under my skin and I concede and totally get what you are saying.
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]]> By: Jean http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/11/andrew-strom-trying-to-transform-africa-with-false-christianity/#comment-2520 Jean Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:02:06 +0000 http://www.discerningtheworld.com/?p=7540#comment-2520 I went to see Mr Strom when he was here in SA. He Preached a service or two down here in the Western Cape. He is also into the feelings and atmosphere - "I can feel the Spirit is here . ." and "this atmosphere is loaded with Gods grace . . ." Eisch ! I think my Spirit is inside of me and NOT in building or tent ! Oh, amd he is definitely into Dominion-ism. He also has this "funny" believe that you can reach people through Music - Rock Music and Hip Hop, to be exact. I questioned him on this and he just said that he believes the Spirit works through music too...!!! Wow !!! "New Revelation !" None of the poor old Apostles knew this...they just labored the old fashioned way by preaching the Gospel of Repentance...just imagine what they could have done if they had know about this "Musical Gospel Ministry" The sad part is that, Rock music is the Gospel of Satan. This Gospel of Rock reads "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" Yet, MR Strom knows better and uses Satan's Gospel for God's kingdom ..??? How sick is that ! I went to see Mr Strom when he was here in SA. He Preached a service or two down here in the Western Cape. He is also into the feelings and atmosphere – “I can feel the Spirit is here . .” and “this atmosphere is loaded with Gods grace . . .” Eisch !
I think my Spirit is inside of me and NOT in building or tent !
Oh, amd he is definitely into Dominion-ism. He also has this “funny” believe that you can reach people through Music – Rock Music and Hip Hop, to be exact.
I questioned him on this and he just said that he believes the Spirit works through music too…!!!
Wow !!! “New Revelation !” None of the poor old Apostles knew this…they just labored the old fashioned way by preaching the Gospel of Repentance…just imagine what they could have done if they had know about this “Musical Gospel Ministry”
The sad part is that, Rock music is the Gospel of Satan. This Gospel of Rock reads “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” Yet, MR Strom knows better and uses Satan’s Gospel for God’s kingdom ..???
How sick is that !

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