Coming from someone who refuses to do his own research on Contemplative Spirituality or answering my questions to show me why Louie Giglio does not teach this occult teaching based on Louie Giglio’s own words is his articles he wrote… is a bit of cheek.

I don’t care if PPP has had some careless words spoken there. That’s not my problem. The problem is PPP and it’s ‘owner’s refuse to acknowledge they speak a ‘New Age’ Christian gospel. And the proof is above in over 200 comments where they in their own words expose what they believe (hidden amidst the Christian talk). If you read them you will clearly see this.

You should not think that you, Deborah, are exempt from this warning. If I look at your words about others they are careless. God will hold you accountable for all these things you have said. Have you the fear of God? You say you do. Let your words to and about others line up with what you preach, Deborah, for I would say that in many ways they do not.

I’ve seen some careless words spoken at PPP as well, to be honest. Some commenters there should remember this too.

>> There is video of Rob Bell sitting on a stage with the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, a Muslim Cleric a Jewish Rabbi and some bald headed Buddhist women all declaring that we all follow the same God.

Actually, this is untrue. Rob was asked to speak on a panel on the subject of “compassion” and what his belief (Christianity) taught about compassion. Nowhere did he declare, or agree, that they were all serving the same God. In fact, the following week at Mars Hill Church, he made a point of saying the opposite – that they do NOT all serve the same God.

Actually this is true, and I don’t make up stuff for the sake of making a point. I have the video, in fact you can get it here if you are willing to buy the dvd’s. http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/18/wtl-dvd-the-emerging-kerkchurch-nou-beskikbaarnow-available-10-oct-09/

Now stop making excuses, admit you are not following the Word of God (nothing added or taken away). Once you admit it to yourself then you can fix the problem. If you don’t want to fix the problem then don’t come here and try tell me how ‘Christian’ you are when you are not and expect me to believe you. If you are that secure in your faith, you would not even bother trying to justify yourself. I don’t.

I know that following strange teachings is wrong – in fact it’s not just wrong; it shows how much one actually loves Jesus Christ that one can go and do the exact opposite of what He told us not to do.

Who do you think He is? He is GOD, you are nothing. Just like I am nothing, a sinner and I fear my King for I know that He loves me and I need to obey Him, and I obey Him because I love Him, not because I fear Him.

Right I have proved over and over and over again that PPP is Emergent, Ecumenical, interfaith, Transformational, etc, etc, etc, etc.

——– I am back home from my holiday and have much to catch up on, like exposing the pants off of Louie Giglio and some other DECEIVERS who speak like butter could not melt in their mouths but are vipers luring youth into contemplative spirituality by the thousands.

There is video of Rob Bell sitting on a stage with the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, a Muslim Cleric a Jewish Rabbi and some bald headed buddhist women all declaring that we all follow the same God.

Actually, this is untrue. Rob was asked to speak on a panel on the subject of “compassion” and what his belief (Christianity) taught about compassion. Nowhere did he declare, or agree, that they were all serving the same God. In fact, the following week at Mars Hill Church, he made a point of saying the opposite – that they do NOT all serve the same God.

Rick Warren gave the speech at Obama’s inauguration and said a prayer to the God of all faiths including Isa al Masih (Muslim Christ)

This is incorrect, as well. He said the name of Jesus in several languages, and when asked about it later (by a discernmentalist blogger), he said that his use of Isa was just to use the name of Jesus, not to give any support to Islam. He has also said on several other occasions that Isalm and Christianity do not serve the same God.

Go ask yourself why you tolerate reading and even accepting teachings from Rob Bell, Rick Warren, Dan Kimball, etc.

To this point, you’ve not given any actual teaching of Kimball, Warren or Bell – just misrepresentations that have been pretty solidly refuted by them, along with multiple Christian writers.

Can you point to a specific doctrine taught by any of these men which is an example of apostasy? I’m not talking about inferred meanings (like Warren’s use of Jesus’ name in multiple languages being some sort of crazy pro-Muslim shout-out), because to this point, you’ve not demonstrated any discernment in your inferrals.

I’m talking about actual, explicit doctrine taught by Warren. And Bell. And Kimball.

And I’m talking about doctrine – not “they believe so-and-so is a Christian, and therefore they are not” (i.e. Guilt by Association)

And I’m talking about their words, not “so-and-so says that Bell teaches X”.

And I’m taking about apostasy – abandonment of the faith – not disagreement with systematic interpretations (like Calvinism) or eschatology.

This is NOT a Bible Study Site. There are other sites that does exactly that. The readers who visit this blog to “learn” (which obviously should actually NOT be the already learned people), things about movements (good and bad), which DTW discerns God wants her to point out to readers – same as you and others do on your different sites.

Isn’t it time to quit trying to convince others of your viewpoint and your stand? and rather say be grateful that there is a discernment blog that does have at its foundation The Lord Jesus Christ and faith in Him?

Readers to this blog anyway go and look up the different other sites to see what DTW is talking about.
my humble opinion.

Exactly. Thanks for that comment re the 2 state solution. And of course this entire ‘solution’ goes completely against what the Bible says.