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I will see what I can find, but can’t promise anything.

Does anyone have the audio on contemplative prayer by mike bickle? I need evidence and need to hear it myself and have a copy. It looks like ihop has taken it off the internet. All of the links no longer work, I can’t find it anywhere now. Please help, I have family that needs to hear it for themselves! Please email me at [email removed] with bickle in the subject. Thanks!

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Annunk, I hope that the IHOPers who visit this thread will heed your words. Thanks for calling this angel of light what it is.

New Age “channelers” (Hello, Mike Bickle!) and other occultists use Acts 10:10 to claim legitimacy for Contemplative prayer…

But the difference between actual “Christian mystical” experiences like Acts 10:10 and New Age mystical experience is easy to distinguish.

WHO INITIATES THE MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE? ALL of the scriptural, biblically based instances have ONE thing in common: IT IS GOD who initiates it. i.e. They were initiated by the Soverign God. Mike Bickle et al urges their adherents to PURSUE paranormal activity. Sorry, but that is totally occult.

Christine,please go to this link if you are willing to learn the truth about IHOP. My dear, you are in a delusion. Deborah is correct not to receive your prayer as it is not of the true and holy God. Please go to this link and learn the truth. May the Lord deliver you from deception. http://gospelmasquerade.wordpress.com/category/ihop/

Christine

You must have a windows view into my life that I don’t know about. I wonder where you get all this info from. As you sit there you sucked it out your thumb. That’s not discernment, that’s called lying and we all know who is the father of lies. I don’t accept your prayers from darkness.

Deborah-

Your testimony is an interesting one. You were in the occult. Jesus saved you, but you don’t go to church, because you believe all that you need is the Bible and the holy spirit. And you ‘discern’ that many things in the church are not of God.

I like that you are an authority on the matter and feel you need no covering and you do not need the fellowship of other believers. And even though the Bible clearly says that if you are sick you should have the elders anoint you with oil, lay hands on you and pray- you find this scripture does not apply to you.

So people coming to this site are really suppose to take your word for it that the spirit living in you is of God even though you are submitted to no one. That is just odd.

But on the other hand I am suppose to think that people committed to praying 24/7 for over 10 years are of the devil. They sing about Jesus. Can devil’s really sing praise to Jesus. I have seen first hand the healings there. They are not fake. Could it be that Jesus still heals and the ‘religious’ people still claim he is beelzebud. “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, the the kingdom of God has come upon you.”

“If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself.”

When someone prays for you in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of God and you are healed- It is clearly not Satan.

….As I sit here I am discerning what this blog is all about. Oh Satan, you accuser of the brethren. This is soooo not ok. I pray for my sister Deborah right now. Jesus would you deliver her from this spirit that has a hold of her. She seeks truth in her heart of hearts. But she is deceived and she has wrongfully set herself up as judge over the body of Christ. And you alone Jesus are the judge. True Holy Spirit would you convict her heart that her pride has caused her to take a seat that is not hers to take. That she has slandered the ones you love. Imperfect and immature as they are they are loved by you. I plead the blood of Jesus over myself and all those that stumble upon this site that no would be led astray by this slanderous deceptive spirit that grips this lady. Set her free, Jesus. I thank you for Mike Bickle and all those at IHOP that labor day and night to honor Your name. In their imperfections I ask you to correct them. In their immaturities I ask you to grow them. In their error I ask you to guide them as a Good Shepherd, as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep. You alone know how to care for what belongs to you and you are able to correct and guide. I thank you for the fellowship of believers. Lead us from one degree of glory to another I ask in the name of sweet precious Jesus, the judge, the healer, the deliverer.

Thanks Joe

Contemplative prayer, Mystics invading the church.
A great article about the deceptions of what people are being lured into. Working in the East for over 11 years I have developed a close and intimate working relationship with Leaders in the underground churches. Before that 25 years in similar work in the states that focused on deliverance and Gifts. Usually a strong defender of things in this area but recently I have seen close leaders and friends of mine in Asia being led astray. The truth is it took a long time to figure out what they believed because it is deceptive and it was subtle, But with study and questions I begin to figure out what was happening to my friends.Because many Asian believers often have little discerning due to a oppressed church they are being sucked into new age techniques under the guise of waiting on God , teaching and various other , contemplative prayer movements which can lead to fringe ideas and false teachings, check out a good article called, “Christine Narloch’s article Contemplative Prayer: Seducing Spirits and a Doctrine of Devils found on the web. The end time church will be led astray because of teachers who refuse to warn people of the gray areas and these same teachers and mystics who actually focused on experience in God not God. Its kind of like focusing on the gift not the giver. Various techniques taught in the new age parallel the recent contemplative movement from the dark ages. Often spirit led but I believe often not the Holy Spirit, Doctrines of devils , chanelling and other new age techniques have got into the church with different labels from the East and Dark ages, Mysctics such as Madam Guyon and others who embrace these inner focus techniques and everything we are warned about in the Word have led captive a hungry church who often seeks emotions, feelings, not truth. Gnosticism and special revelation was also a problem in Paul the Apostles life.He fought this and we now face the same problems. The apostle warned the church in Colosse about this. The contemplative prayer movement and other similar teachings It all looks so good but its not. Gnostics believed they had special revelation , Its funny and sad but the new age movement has more common sense than the church and more understanding of what they are promoting. My asian believers who practice these contemplative prayers and meditation all sit in a circle and meditate , very quiet and hands open, minds empty , almost hypnotic state, almost afraid to say anything, Then they ask each other what did you see, what did you see, What did you see, Or read a few lines from the bible, and repeat , what did you see, what did you think , Crazy answers will follow and the leader will say we need to accept all the views. When asked do you study Gods word , they say some yes but most often they have not and find it too hard to do so the leader finds it quite easy to lead them into this practice of sitting around and going into inner contemplative places which at times appears they are almost euphoric . On the surface we might say dont judge but I see something dark can get in and work here. When we imagine and focus on what did you see it leads to crazy open doors of deception. Many false prophets in the last days. The west thinks its cool to do Eastern things, So we have embraced all kinds of philosophy buddhist , and hindu teachings now getting even into the church. This is nothing more than divination in which other deceiving spirits are allowed to work .When we think we can jump over the foundation of the word we will fall into the ditch. Often these leaders and teachers mentioned focus on experiences not Gods word, If you examine how great movements got off it because when we dismiss our minds and fail to discern we can be led astray , I have also seen these people who follow teachers such as the mystic Madame Guyon from the dark ages who came out of the catholic church be easily deceived. She said take a scripture and use it kind of like a mantra for just one purpose to have an experience, she said, is just a point of focus when we meditate once we reach our goal just forget about how we got their, its not important. How can we say its not important it is Dangerous , and the IHOP is giving in to this without really examining the great deception behind it. Perhaps we just throw out Pauls warning to Timothy and Titus about the last day church. After seeing this with my own eyes , the other side of the East, Hinduism etc I am very concerned. The Pastors will come under this deception also if they are not awake. Who gets hurt in the end? its the sheep are hurt in the end . Apostate church is happening in front of us.
Wake up.

Whitney

>> call what is of God of Satan

beware what you call Satan actions to be God’s. Micke Bickle is a less tattooed version of Todd Bentley and will have the same outcome. Passing on a false spirit that will damage their spiritual lives.