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	<title>Comments on: Prt 1 &#8211; A Biblical Appraisal of the Mosaic Congress &#8211; Mosaic Church, Johannesburg (4–5 Sep 09)</title>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin - &quot;illogical&quot;  - good point.

Perhaps a better choice for the one talking about &quot;unlearning&quot; would have been the fact that we are to REJECT the lies, REPENT, and RECEIVE the love of the truth..

Jesus said, &quot;I am the way, the truth and the life...&quot;(John 14:6a)

&quot;And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.&quot; (Romans 12:2)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_217489"><p>Martin &#8211; &#8220;illogical&#8221;  &#8211; good point.</p>
<p>Perhaps a better choice for the one talking about &#8220;unlearning&#8221; would have been the fact that we are to REJECT the lies, REPENT, and RECEIVE the love of the truth..</p>
<p>Jesus said, &#8220;I am the way, the truth and the life&#8230;&#8221;(John 14:6a)</p>
<p>&#8220;And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.&#8221; (Romans 12:2)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Horan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Horan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is, Deborah, a lot of people do want to hear from these people who&#039;d be best living by what they preach and remain silent! 
God gave us the gift of speech, no-one else did. 
I have a friend who cannot speak and would love to. He was born dumb and still remains so, though a Christian. Maybe some of the people who come out with these statements would think of dumb people and realize the blessing they&#039;ve been given.
We are told to CONTEND for the faith once delivered. How do we contend if we are silent? The fact is, we don&#039;t because we can&#039;t.
Where in the Bible--full of all necessary teaching--does it say &quot;for God to work in our lives we have to unlearn things&quot;?
When God comes into our lives we learn more and the wrong things go. To unlearn things is an unfortunate choice of words by virtue of the fact that it&#039;s illogical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_217487"><p>The sad thing is, Deborah, a lot of people do want to hear from these people who&#8217;d be best living by what they preach and remain silent!<br />
God gave us the gift of speech, no-one else did.<br />
I have a friend who cannot speak and would love to. He was born dumb and still remains so, though a Christian. Maybe some of the people who come out with these statements would think of dumb people and realize the blessing they&#8217;ve been given.<br />
We are told to CONTEND for the faith once delivered. How do we contend if we are silent? The fact is, we don&#8217;t because we can&#8217;t.<br />
Where in the Bible&#8211;full of all necessary teaching&#8211;does it say &#8220;for God to work in our lives we have to unlearn things&#8221;?<br />
When God comes into our lives we learn more and the wrong things go. To unlearn things is an unfortunate choice of words by virtue of the fact that it&#8217;s illogical.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john1

What a load of horse pucky.  You sound like you delve deeply into mysticism. From this moment forth I suggest you keep &lt;em&gt;silent &lt;/em&gt;because I don&#039;t want to hear from you anymore.</description>
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<p>What a load of horse pucky.  You sound like you delve deeply into mysticism. From this moment forth I suggest you keep <em>silent </em>because I don&#8217;t want to hear from you anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: john1</title>
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		<dc:creator>john1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silence is very important as it is our nature.  None of us were born with any indwelling of words, no matter how profound or true sounding.  We are all taught many things that in order to experience God working in our lives we have to unlearn.  It is by being silent that take in the world around us.  God is not heard by those whose minds and mouths are too busy yapping, but by those who will become still, patient, open, loving, silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216818"><p>Silence is very important as it is our nature.  None of us were born with any indwelling of words, no matter how profound or true sounding.  We are all taught many things that in order to experience God working in our lives we have to unlearn.  It is by being silent that take in the world around us.  God is not heard by those whose minds and mouths are too busy yapping, but by those who will become still, patient, open, loving, silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[deleted] If you want to go then, good bye Janet.  If you want to side with New Age teachers such as those in this article be our guest, but please do not make your issues ours as we content to fight for the GOSPEL TRUTH; ALWAYS.  As I said before, IF YOU WERE A GENUINE CHRISTIAN you would not be arguing with us. You want us to engage in dialogue that in the end show you to be right and we wont do that because you are not right.  The truth is quite plain to see in the article, but if you fail to see it and view me as the manipulator then, unfortunately you are blind to the truth. I pray the Holy Spirit opens your eyes to what you believe and that you do not fall into the trap of a &lt;em&gt;false holy spirit awakening.&lt;/em&gt;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216428"><p>[deleted] If you want to go then, good bye Janet.  If you want to side with New Age teachers such as those in this article be our guest, but please do not make your issues ours as we content to fight for the GOSPEL TRUTH; ALWAYS.  As I said before, IF YOU WERE A GENUINE CHRISTIAN you would not be arguing with us. You want us to engage in dialogue that in the end show you to be right and we wont do that because you are not right.  The truth is quite plain to see in the article, but if you fail to see it and view me as the manipulator then, unfortunately you are blind to the truth. I pray the Holy Spirit opens your eyes to what you believe and that you do not fall into the trap of a <em>false holy spirit awakening.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet

No Janet, you did not read this article properly.  If you understood what it was saying you would not be arguing about what biblical &lt;em&gt;prayer&lt;/em&gt; is vs meditation. Prayer is prayer, being sill is being sill (not silence).  But meditation is meditation, silence is silence, emptying your mind is occult or repeating verses or mantras is WRONG.  Don&#039;t come here and try flip the coin on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216426"><p>Janet</p>
<p>No Janet, you did not read this article properly.  If you understood what it was saying you would not be arguing about what biblical <em>prayer</em> is vs meditation. Prayer is prayer, being sill is being sill (not silence).  But meditation is meditation, silence is silence, emptying your mind is occult or repeating verses or mantras is WRONG.  Don&#8217;t come here and try flip the coin on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Werner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet,

the only thing we can do with this verse is to read it in context; &#039;be still&#039; in this passage (if you are refering to Psalm 46:10), actually means &#039;stop striving&#039;, they are therefore told to cease from warlike activities and acknowledge God&#039;s supremacy.

The verse (in context), further carries the idea of refraining from vain strivings and lack of confidence. The refrain is repeated in order to show the triumph of this confidence in God.

When we rape a verse,we can make the Scriptures mean anything we want, we can make our own doctrines, we can defend our own follies, and even start our own religions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216425"><p>Janet,</p>
<p>the only thing we can do with this verse is to read it in context; &#8216;be still&#8217; in this passage (if you are refering to Psalm 46:10), actually means &#8216;stop striving&#8217;, they are therefore told to cease from warlike activities and acknowledge God&#8217;s supremacy.</p>
<p>The verse (in context), further carries the idea of refraining from vain strivings and lack of confidence. The refrain is repeated in order to show the triumph of this confidence in God.</p>
<p>When we rape a verse,we can make the Scriptures mean anything we want, we can make our own doctrines, we can defend our own follies, and even start our own religions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: maizie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maizie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Holy Spirit teaches us, Spirit to spirit even while we sleep but it is essential to know God&#039;s Word which is the foundation for the Holy spirit as He does not build upon any but Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Cornerstone of our faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216415"><p>The Holy Spirit teaches us, Spirit to spirit even while we sleep but it is essential to know God&#8217;s Word which is the foundation for the Holy spirit as He does not build upon any but Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Cornerstone of our faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet
Read the whole article ... not just the heading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216407"><p>Janet<br />
Read the whole article &#8230; not just the heading.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Deborah,

I don&#039;t think you read my post in its entirety, or you would have seen my last sentence, where I anticipated that you would think I meditated in the New Age/Eastern manner.  I do not.

To repeat, I don&#039;t &quot;empty my mind and meditate like a New Ager&quot;.  I do not believe in other gods.  &quot;Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One&quot;.  This is what I believe.

I am starting to see that perhaps you have a sort of knee-jerk reaction to things posted here, and maybe do not read them carefully.  You certainly didn&#039;t read my post carefully. That is obvious to me.

You could save yourself a lot of what you must feel is &quot;righteous anger&quot; by not having this automatic reaction to what people write here, but instead, reading the posts more carefully.

There is silence, and there is the &quot;trance state&quot;, and channeling.  Silence is an important part of Christian prayer.  Channeling can put us in serious danger through opening ourselves up to dark entities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_216404"><p>Dear Deborah,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you read my post in its entirety, or you would have seen my last sentence, where I anticipated that you would think I meditated in the New Age/Eastern manner.  I do not.</p>
<p>To repeat, I don&#8217;t &#8220;empty my mind and meditate like a New Ager&#8221;.  I do not believe in other gods.  &#8220;Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One&#8221;.  This is what I believe.</p>
<p>I am starting to see that perhaps you have a sort of knee-jerk reaction to things posted here, and maybe do not read them carefully.  You certainly didn&#8217;t read my post carefully. That is obvious to me.</p>
<p>You could save yourself a lot of what you must feel is &#8220;righteous anger&#8221; by not having this automatic reaction to what people write here, but instead, reading the posts more carefully.</p>
<p>There is silence, and there is the &#8220;trance state&#8221;, and channeling.  Silence is an important part of Christian prayer.  Channeling can put us in serious danger through opening ourselves up to dark entities.</p>
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