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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/28/help-bail-ray-mccauley-out-of-debt/#comment-14764</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>louise

Me smiles tooo :-)</description>
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<p>Me smiles tooo :-)</p>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that Almarie if I dont get to meet you here lets meet in heaven. Smiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that Almarie if I dont get to meet you here lets meet in heaven. Smiles.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/28/help-bail-ray-mccauley-out-of-debt/#comment-14651</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>louise

The only reason God created man was to glorify Him. We cannot even comprehend what it will be like in Heaven one day it is just simply too much for our mere tiny minds. 

Romans 11:36
For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. [For all things originate with Him and come from Him; all things live through Him, and all things center in and tend to consummate and to end in Him.] To Him be glory forever! Amen (so be it).

1 Peter 5:10
And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace [Who imparts all blessing and favor], Who has called you to His [own] eternal glory in Christ Jesus, will Himself complete and make you what you ought to be, establish and ground you securely, and strengthen, and settle you.

The verses also often comes to mind nowadays :-)

Luke 18:7-9 (Amplified Bible)

7 And will not [our just] God defend and protect and avenge His elect (His chosen ones), who cry to Him day and night? Will He [a]defer them and [b]delay help on their behalf?

8 I tell you, He will defend and protect and avenge them speedily. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find [[c]persistence in] faith on the earth?

9 He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves and were confident that they were righteous [that they were upright and in right standing with God] and scorned and made nothing of all the rest of men:

We must stand strong and fight the good fight and finish the race as Paul says and pray for this all the time because it will not get easier for those who stand for the truth.

1. Acts 20:24
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I may finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the gospel of God&#039;s grace.
      
 2 Timothy 4:7
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.

Peace be with you :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>louise</p>
<p>The only reason God created man was to glorify Him. We cannot even comprehend what it will be like in Heaven one day it is just simply too much for our mere tiny minds. </p>
<p>Romans 11:36<br />
For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. [For all things originate with Him and come from Him; all things live through Him, and all things center in and tend to consummate and to end in Him.] To Him be glory forever! Amen (so be it).</p>
<p>1 Peter 5:10<br />
And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace [Who imparts all blessing and favor], Who has called you to His [own] eternal glory in Christ Jesus, will Himself complete and make you what you ought to be, establish and ground you securely, and strengthen, and settle you.</p>
<p>The verses also often comes to mind nowadays :-)</p>
<p>Luke 18:7-9 (Amplified Bible)</p>
<p>7 And will not [our just] God defend and protect and avenge His elect (His chosen ones), who cry to Him day and night? Will He [a]defer them and [b]delay help on their behalf?</p>
<p>8 I tell you, He will defend and protect and avenge them speedily. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find [[c]persistence in] faith on the earth?</p>
<p>9 He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves and were confident that they were righteous [that they were upright and in right standing with God] and scorned and made nothing of all the rest of men:</p>
<p>We must stand strong and fight the good fight and finish the race as Paul says and pray for this all the time because it will not get easier for those who stand for the truth.</p>
<p>1. Acts 20:24<br />
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I may finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the gospel of God&#8217;s grace.</p>
<p> 2 Timothy 4:7<br />
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.</p>
<p>Peace be with you :-)</p>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sighs, Elmarie its so lovely to see that we are like minded people. It brings me joy when i see people expecting and getting excited for his return opposed to how much wealth he gives us in material profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sighs, Elmarie its so lovely to see that we are like minded people. It brings me joy when i see people expecting and getting excited for his return opposed to how much wealth he gives us in material profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>louise

Yes we hope and pray Theressa takes heed. We can only watch and pray that she finds the truth soon. 

As you say: 
ARE YOU READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am and i am so excited to meet my LORD JESUS soon.

We should not fall asleep  and be caught of guard. We should keep oil in our lamps and keep the burning all the time 24/7.

Luke 12:34-36 (Amplified Bible)

34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
35 Keep your loins girded and your lamps burning,
36 And be like men who are waiting for their master to return home from the marriage feast, so that when he returns from the wedding and comes and knocks, they may open to him immediately.</description>
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<p>Yes we hope and pray Theressa takes heed. We can only watch and pray that she finds the truth soon. </p>
<p>As you say:<br />
ARE YOU READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
I am and i am so excited to meet my LORD JESUS soon.</p>
<p>We should not fall asleep  and be caught of guard. We should keep oil in our lamps and keep the burning all the time 24/7.</p>
<p>Luke 12:34-36 (Amplified Bible)</p>
<p>34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.<br />
35 Keep your loins girded and your lamps burning,<br />
36 And be like men who are waiting for their master to return home from the marriage feast, so that when he returns from the wedding and comes and knocks, they may open to him immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theresa, Yes you are so right about judging which I fail with and each day and I have to go before GOD and ask for forgiveness for ALL my sins. My SALVATION is an on going walk with GOD. Now I must tell you from the bible that we are to contend for the faith. How can you test Ray without ever meeting or getting to know him. He does not take calls if you are a none entity in life. In addition he does not just meet anyone. Trust me I tried. Just because he said GOD called him do you believe him. have you tested him Theresa. If not you are not reading your bible.
I was simply pointing out that I know both Parties Norman and Ray so I was and am able to talk from first hand information. The truth is harder to accept and its thru the truth that we are able to climb out of the meassage of the Prosperity teachings. In Revealtion it mentions the luke warm church.lets quote Revealtion 14 verse 17. Because you say I am rich, have become wealthy and have need of nothing - and you not know that you are wretched, miserable,poor,blind and naked.
God in fact vomits them out of his mouth. When you have the worlds riches why do you need GOD?
Oh yessss GOD blesses pleople for I am but a witnesses to his blessings, but better I am blessed with is truth than drive a BMW. 
There is a need for sites like this though this site is for those people who are seeking HIS truth.You are not here by accident and if you feel that this site is harsh and judging why may i ask do you come back.
Please read Titus 1 verse 13 where he says we are to rebuke them sharply so they may sound in the faith. Norman had a filty habit of Blaspheming and yet you find him to be a great man. He could not string one sentence without blaspheming. And yet he and Ray were buddies. GOD says come out of her my people. If you are an enemy of GODS then you are an enemy of mine.
I am sure you are a well meaning lovely lady, but this much I shall tell you, time is short. We should not be messing with our lives like getting divorced or entertaining Political Heads at our church as Ray did way back when Mandela was released. It achieved nothing. We still are under the control of a Pagan goverment. Your biggest enemy Theresa is Satan and he will trick you into believeing that the faith movement is of GOD. Its not I am telling you. It began out with good intensions then the rot set in. Do you know how it set in? By not turning to the truth on a daily basis so GOD seared their conscience. Stop putting man/men on a pedestal and read your bible and cry out to GOD to show you how mis-lead you have become.
The most important thing that I can convey to you is this. There is strong evidence from the striptures that the rapture will take place soon. ARE YOU READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am and i am so excited to meet my LORD JESUS soon.
May your walk with JESUS be a close one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theresa, Yes you are so right about judging which I fail with and each day and I have to go before GOD and ask for forgiveness for ALL my sins. My SALVATION is an on going walk with GOD. Now I must tell you from the bible that we are to contend for the faith. How can you test Ray without ever meeting or getting to know him. He does not take calls if you are a none entity in life. In addition he does not just meet anyone. Trust me I tried. Just because he said GOD called him do you believe him. have you tested him Theresa. If not you are not reading your bible.<br />
I was simply pointing out that I know both Parties Norman and Ray so I was and am able to talk from first hand information. The truth is harder to accept and its thru the truth that we are able to climb out of the meassage of the Prosperity teachings. In Revealtion it mentions the luke warm church.lets quote Revealtion 14 verse 17. Because you say I am rich, have become wealthy and have need of nothing &#8211; and you not know that you are wretched, miserable,poor,blind and naked.<br />
God in fact vomits them out of his mouth. When you have the worlds riches why do you need GOD?<br />
Oh yessss GOD blesses pleople for I am but a witnesses to his blessings, but better I am blessed with is truth than drive a BMW.<br />
There is a need for sites like this though this site is for those people who are seeking HIS truth.You are not here by accident and if you feel that this site is harsh and judging why may i ask do you come back.<br />
Please read Titus 1 verse 13 where he says we are to rebuke them sharply so they may sound in the faith. Norman had a filty habit of Blaspheming and yet you find him to be a great man. He could not string one sentence without blaspheming. And yet he and Ray were buddies. GOD says come out of her my people. If you are an enemy of GODS then you are an enemy of mine.<br />
I am sure you are a well meaning lovely lady, but this much I shall tell you, time is short. We should not be messing with our lives like getting divorced or entertaining Political Heads at our church as Ray did way back when Mandela was released. It achieved nothing. We still are under the control of a Pagan goverment. Your biggest enemy Theresa is Satan and he will trick you into believeing that the faith movement is of GOD. Its not I am telling you. It began out with good intensions then the rot set in. Do you know how it set in? By not turning to the truth on a daily basis so GOD seared their conscience. Stop putting man/men on a pedestal and read your bible and cry out to GOD to show you how mis-lead you have become.<br />
The most important thing that I can convey to you is this. There is strong evidence from the striptures that the rapture will take place soon. ARE YOU READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
I am and i am so excited to meet my LORD JESUS soon.<br />
May your walk with JESUS be a close one.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theresa



&lt;blockquote&gt;you said:  &quot;WE ARE TO BE JESUS IN THE FLESH TO A DYING WORLD!!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Good grief, you just trashed the scripture of 

1 John 4.

1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and &lt;strong&gt;every spirit that does not confess that  Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God&lt;/strong&gt;. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
   
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theresa</p>
<blockquote><p>you said:  &#8220;WE ARE TO BE JESUS IN THE FLESH TO A DYING WORLD!!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Good grief, you just trashed the scripture of </p>
<p>1 John 4.</p>
<p>1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and <strong>every spirit that does not confess that  Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God</strong>. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.<br />
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.</p>
<p>7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/28/help-bail-ray-mccauley-out-of-debt/#comment-12615</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burning Lamp

Yip I share the same views here as you stated BL. :-)</description>
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<p>Yip I share the same views here as you stated BL. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/28/help-bail-ray-mccauley-out-of-debt/#comment-12583</link>
		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a cursory look at Roth&#039;s website and viewing his program reveals his fascination with signs and wonders. His interview with Patricia King and his session with other false teachers claiming to open a portal to heaven right in the studio. His sincerity is not in question and he seems like a nice gentleman. He seems to truly believe this stuff. May the Lord open his eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a cursory look at Roth&#8217;s website and viewing his program reveals his fascination with signs and wonders. His interview with Patricia King and his session with other false teachers claiming to open a portal to heaven right in the studio. His sincerity is not in question and he seems like a nice gentleman. He seems to truly believe this stuff. May the Lord open his eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/28/help-bail-ray-mccauley-out-of-debt/#comment-12550</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burning Lamp said: &quot;Then I noticed that they link to Sid Roth and I knew it was a hopeless&quot;
This is a bit off-topic but still about false teachers. I was wondering about this Sid Roth as some websites reveals Mary K Baxter with whom Sid had an interview as being false. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mary_k_baxter.htm and http://so4j.com/false-visits-to-heaven-and-hell-bob-dewaay.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burning Lamp said: &#8220;Then I noticed that they link to Sid Roth and I knew it was a hopeless&#8221;<br />
This is a bit off-topic but still about false teachers. I was wondering about this Sid Roth as some websites reveals Mary K Baxter with whom Sid had an interview as being false. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mary_k_baxter.htm"  rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mary_k_baxter.htm</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://so4j.com/false-visits-to-heaven-and-hell-bob-dewaay.php"  rel="nofollow">http://so4j.com/false-visits-to-heaven-and-hell-bob-dewaay.php</a></p>
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