Do you believe there any miracles or signs today which are genuinely from the Lord? Ive seen a few, not many, spontaneous healings in the Lord’s name which brought about the person’s conversion to follow Jesus.

but if muslims are having visions of Jesus and they are truely repenting and turning to Jesus, then isnt Satan taking a risk that some of thesee people will really repent and come to know the Lord and be saved? Why would satan take that risk? Why wouldnt satan just turn up as a more alluring hindu god with healing power to definetly keep them from Jesus and the Gospel?

(Oh I could’t find this post – praat van verstooidgeid).
I read the Bible NKJV .

Yes, I was also thinking about the verse you quoted above (and thinking alot about this verse in general nowadays). But it’s like there is a third party involved during “misleading”. A person goes to another person and tells about an appearance of Jesus. Third party scenarios many times creates havock doesn’t it. But when Jesus directly appears to the primary person to introduce that person to salvation?
I immediately thought about the life-changing event Saul went through, this after Jesus’s resurrection right, (Acts 9:5)
-”…And he said,’Who are you, Lord?’ Then the Lord said,’I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’”
Saul relives what happened before authorities in Acts 22:8, telling them – …”So I answered,’Who are You, Lord?’ And He said to me,’I am Jesus of Nazareth,whom you are persecuting.’” (Confirming there weren’t some mistranslation – it’s actually meant to say Jesus).

But certainly yes, if another person comes to me claiming anything regarding/surrounding Jesus, I have learnt to be very cautious (yet, I have been mislead a few times).

Mariette

You want to say that Jesus will not appear to anyone in these days?

Well my bible says this:

Matthew 24:23-27 23 If anyone says to you then, Behold, here is the Christ (the Messiah)! or, There He is!–do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (God’s chosen ones). 25 See, I have warned you beforehand. 26 So if they say to you, Behold, He is in the wilderness (desert)–do not go out there; if they tell you, Behold, He is in the secret places or inner rooms–do not believe it. 27For just as the lightning flashes from the east and shines and [h]is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

What bible do you read?

But sometimes God turns evil (sometimes unknown) intent into good results? I heard about similar story like above of where a chief in a very remote place in Africa received a vision of a man, calling himself Jesus, saying to gather his people together for He is sending His people to tell them more about Him. When the missionaries got there, all these people were waiting for them. There is an explosion of baptism there and of witchdocters turning to the living God. You want to say that Jesus will not appear to anyone in these days?

Rista

….that Jesus appeared to the son a chief of one of the remote villages where they had no success with bringing the gospel and told him to tell the rest of the village that He is coming soon and they have to get ready for He is going to judge everyone with fire.

Totally correct. This is not Jesus Christ.

No 1. Jesus said that if anyone tells you they saw Him here and there, that they are not to be believed for the only time we will see Jesus again is when He returns and then EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM.
No 2. “going to judge everyone with fire” This sure sounds like Satan. Judgement by fire yes for the unsaved, but not for born again Christians.
No 3. The Bible is the Word and the Word is Jesus Christ. If the people were not wanting to accept the Word by the working of the Holy Spirit then something is wrong…which leads us to this…
No 4. This Jesus that showed up did not lead the people to the Word of God.
No 5. This Jesus did tell the ‘truth’ kinda; Satan is coming as a false-Christ and he will judge everyone with nothing but death and destruction.
No 6. Of course people will be baptised under false teaching and come to some form of false repentance. Satan counterfeits everything.
No 7. So this false Christ is appearing to Hindu’s too in droves and they are coming to a false salvation? Well it’s happening with Muslims too.

Kundilini is the awakening of the serpent (Goddess Kundilini) at the base of your spine. (You feel heat, electricity, you convulse, see visions, dreams, all sorts of thing, you find god inside, and become god). To put it into western terms: the moment you start to practise contemplative spirituality you are immediately activating the Chakra’s in your body. 1st Chakra at the base of your spine all the way to the top of your head. The energy flows up and down the body as though it’s a snake (think of a spiral like DNA). As you start to activate these Chakra’s you end up opening your ‘third eye’ and you have an ‘awakening’ by a FALSE ‘holy spirit’. This can be drawn in the diagram of the tree of life. There is a ‘tree of life’ in every religion and it all ends up at the same point – where you become god and infused with the cosmic Christ and the universe and all sorts of rubbish as you reach the 7th Chakra aka Crown chakra at the top.

What used to take occultists years to practise and achieve can now happen in a few minutes, just by having someone lay hands on you, or just sitting in silence in your room ‘meditating’. Satan is running out of time, he is working super fast and he can’t wait years for people to accept the false spirit that is snatching souls at a rate of knots, so he has given people ancient knowledge on a platter to the church and they are feeding it to the flock and they are lapping it up.

I am actually doing an article on this… been working on it for a while now, but seeing that you asked this question I will try get it out sooner because what I have to say will explain exactly what is being taught and how all the 5 Christs from the 5 major religions fit into the picture.

As for the DVD, nope I have not seen it.

Hi Deborah, I ‘stumbled’ upon this post and have a question – not really relevant to the heading but to ‘Scriptures to remember’ part. A friend who does missionary work in India told me that Jesus appeared to the son a chief of one of the remote villages where they had no success with bringing the gospel and told him to tell the rest of the village that He is coming soon and they have to get ready for He is going to judge everyone with fire. They came to the missionary in the area and asked him to tell them about ‘his’ Jesus. But for the fact that they asked to be told more about ‘his’ Jesus and what they have to do to accept Him as their Saviour, I was very skeptical – the people around there grow up as Hindus and their kundalinis must be awakened at an early age. Apparently this is something that is happening quite often these days and it seems as though these people are giving their lives to Christ in big numbers – with repentance and being baptized. I think it is a lot easier to simply accept these appearances as legitimate when one has no knowledge of the kundalini spirit and its effects on a person. Have you ever watched Eben Swarts’ DVD’s on the kundalini?

God bless and keep well!

Redeemed Hippie

Yip, cos that book has trapped a person I once ‘knew’. They told me about it and I read it. When I tried to tell them there was something terrible about the book they refused to listen.

So I went all out to analyse and research Choo Thomas. And now you really don’t need to waste your money on the book, by a chocolate instead :)

trust me, the book = waiste of money (someone made me a photocopy, so I didn’t pay anything tho’). people think to read the book is to see heaven! no, serious! my tough job is to explain the truth to ex-Hindu’s. they LOVE this book and circulates it as far they can! this book is bad news in the circles of ex-Hindu’s!
aaawwhh well, knowledge comes from Word+Holy Spirit will quicken the right words at the right time!
But yeah, +++ 4 u Debs!
cecilia

Hi Deborah. Wow! You really did some homework! I love how you have been able to hit the nail right on the head with CT.
Thanks for letting me use your one post on her. now I have to point people to this article! You have done more studying on her than i have been able to find. Thanks, I really appreciate it. It keeps me from having to go out and buy the book!