Comments on: Sadhu Sundar Singh – Hindu Mystic in Sheep’s Clothing http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/ A Genuine Christian Blog for Genuine Christians Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:15:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Deborah (Discerning the World) http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-16491 Deborah (Discerning the World) Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:10:56 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-16491 Hubert There are no assumptions. Sundar Singh was a Hindu Mystic. End of story. Hubert

There are no assumptions. Sundar Singh was a Hindu Mystic. End of story.

]]> By: Hubert http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-16488 Hubert Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:58:46 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-16488 There is too much assumption in what you are saying about Sadhu Sundar Singh. Todd Bentley uses many other people besides sundar to justified waht he is doing. He definately had the wrong spirit. However Sadhu Sundar Singh did leave his old lifestyle behind. Just like any one of us, when we followed Christ , we leave our old lifestyle behind. The question here is do we penalize him because he wear an orange robe? Do we penalize the menonites becausde they wear a headdress? Do we penalize the chinese Christian  because during somepart of their wedding they had to wear traditioonal chinese costume and cheong sam? Sundar was a punjabi. He minsters in the Indian subcontinent, so that type of dressing is totally acceptable. Thats their simple costume, a robe. Jesus wears a robe too. Sadhu simply means holy man in their language, hindi. but in that culture it refers to him as a teacher. They call Jesus a rabbi too? Is Jesus a Pharasee? In Laos and thailand they call pastors 'Ajahn', but they also call monks 'ajahn' too. Are they the same? In China, taiwan, singapore and malaysia, they call some one who teaches the word 'lao shi' but they also call taoist who teachesrs taoism ' lao shi'. In muslim culture, they call God 'Allah'. But in malay and indonesia, the christians also call God 'Allah'.Is muslim and Christian the same? Todd Bentley(whom i also believe is demon possessed himself) says he saw Sundar. That is liken to Saul seeing Samuel which is demonic in nature. so What todd bentley claims to see is not sahdu and could be a familar spirit. There is too much assumption in what you are saying about Sadhu Sundar Singh. Todd Bentley uses many other people besides sundar to justified waht he is doing. He definately had the wrong spirit. However Sadhu Sundar Singh did leave his old lifestyle behind. Just like any one of us, when we followed Christ , we leave our old lifestyle behind. The question here is do we penalize him because he wear an orange robe? Do we penalize the menonites becausde they wear a headdress? Do we penalize the chinese Christian  because during somepart of their wedding they had to wear traditioonal chinese costume and cheong sam? Sundar was a punjabi. He minsters in the Indian subcontinent, so that type of dressing is totally acceptable. Thats their simple costume, a robe. Jesus wears a robe too. Sadhu simply means holy man in their language, hindi. but in that culture it refers to him as a teacher. They call Jesus a rabbi too? Is Jesus a Pharasee? In Laos and thailand they call pastors ‘Ajahn’, but they also call monks ‘ajahn’ too. Are they the same? In China, taiwan, singapore and malaysia, they call some one who teaches the word ‘lao shi’ but they also call taoist who teachesrs taoism ‘ lao shi’. In muslim culture, they call God ‘Allah’. But in malay and indonesia, the christians also call God ‘Allah’.Is muslim and Christian the same? Todd Bentley(whom i also believe is demon possessed himself) says he saw Sundar. That is liken to Saul seeing Samuel which is demonic in nature. so What todd bentley claims to see is not sahdu and could be a familar spirit.

]]> By: Deborah (Discerning the World) http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-15439 Deborah (Discerning the World) Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:10:12 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-15439 Patrick <blockquote>I am from Sweden and I have NEVER seen a Swedenborg church</blockquote> Well it just shows that you need to get out and about more. But more importantly, what on earth has your comment got to do with the article? Ahhhh nothing. It does however tell the readers of this blog that you think Hindu mystics are biblical and that Word of Faith is Godly (as per your comment below). Oh you also think John Piper is ok as well and that everyone else is wrong exept you. http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/05/26/john-piper-accepting-one-mountain-with-all-the-others/#comment-15377 Patrick

I am from Sweden and I have NEVER seen a Swedenborg church

Well it just shows that you need to get out and about more.

But more importantly, what on earth has your comment got to do with the article? Ahhhh nothing. It does however tell the readers of this blog that you think Hindu mystics are biblical and that Word of Faith is Godly (as per your comment below). Oh you also think John Piper is ok as well and that everyone else is wrong exept you. http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/05/26/john-piper-accepting-one-mountain-with-all-the-others/#comment-15377

]]> By: Patrick Ölund http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-15379 Patrick Ölund Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:03:02 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-15379 I am from Sweden and I have NEVER seen a Swedenborg church. James Hudson Taylor when moving to China became a Chinese to preach for them because they wouldn't receive him as an English man. I am from Sweden and I have NEVER seen a Swedenborg church.

James Hudson Taylor when moving to China became a Chinese to preach for them because they wouldn’t receive him as an English man.

]]> By: Discerning The World http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-1006 Discerning The World Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:27:23 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-1006 Hi Thooomaaaaaasssssss! Good question... hope Clark can expand further. Hi Thooomaaaaaasssssss!

Good question… hope Clark can expand further.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-1007 Thomas Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:43:18 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-1007 Clark seems to have forgotten that Swedenborg started a whole new belief system which his followers call a new Christianity. Now, if Christianity is a movement of church goers who gather in buildings to worship the Lord, then Swedenborg's followers must surely also gather toegether in buildings where they werve and worship their "Lord" who is not the Christian's Lord but a new "Lord" of a "new Christianity." Is'nt that a church? (Read this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedenborgian" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedenborgian</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Church" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Church</a>) Would Clark mind explaining how Jesus Christ established his church after his death, resurrection and ascencion into heaven? Does that mean He never established a church (ecclesia)? The fact that an "organiztion" (organizations do not have doctrines pertaining to matters of life and death) was only started after Swedenborg's death does not mean that he was not instrumental in the establishment of a new church (with a belief system and certain doctrines). Clark seems to have forgotten that Swedenborg started a whole new belief system which his followers call a new Christianity. Now, if Christianity is a movement of church goers who gather in buildings to worship the Lord, then Swedenborg’s followers must surely also gather toegether in buildings where they werve and worship their “Lord” who is not the Christian’s Lord but a new “Lord” of a “new Christianity.” Is’nt that a church? (Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedenborgian and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Church)

Would Clark mind explaining how Jesus Christ established his church after his death, resurrection and ascencion into heaven? Does that mean He never established a church (ecclesia)? The fact that an “organiztion” (organizations do not have doctrines pertaining to matters of life and death) was only started after Swedenborg’s death does not mean that he was not instrumental in the establishment of a new church (with a belief system and certain doctrines).

]]> By: Discerning The World http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-1004 Discerning The World Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:57:07 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-1004 Clark Thanks for that FYI. I'll fix the article. This still does not mean a church was not established off Swedenborgs teachings. Clark

Thanks for that FYI. I’ll fix the article. This still does not mean a church was not established off Swedenborgs teachings.

]]> By: Clark Echols http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-1005 Clark Echols Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:10:02 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-1005 You wrote: Sundar seems to have ties with Swedenborgiana – New Church (another Cult) in which Swedenborg (the visionary who established this diabolical church) also had visions very similar to Sundars. Just an FYI: Swedenborg never established a church. No organization was started until after he died. More at [edited URL] May the Lord continue to bless your day. Clark You wrote:

Sundar seems to have ties with Swedenborgiana – New Church (another Cult) in which Swedenborg (the visionary who established this diabolical church) also had visions very similar to Sundars.

Just an FYI: Swedenborg never established a church. No organization was started until after he died. More at [edited URL]

May the Lord continue to bless your day.

Clark

]]> By: Discerning The World http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-1008 Discerning The World Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:35:07 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-1008 >> Sounds like someone who was willing to become all things to all people so that the gospel might be proclaimed. Sounds like the Apostle Paul. This is not about culture this is about <em>different beliefs within </em>culture. Please supply verse(s) where Paul remained a Pharisee after he became an Apostle for Jesus Christ? >> Sounds like someone who was willing to become all things to all people so that the gospel might be proclaimed. Sounds like the Apostle Paul.

This is not about culture this is about different beliefs within culture. Please supply verse(s) where Paul remained a Pharisee after he became an Apostle for Jesus Christ?

]]> By: Chad http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/09/sadhu-sundar-singh-hindu-mystic-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-1009 Chad Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:58:06 +0000 http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-1009 "The only reason for this was because it was supposedly easier for him to approach people and spread the Gospel" Sounds like someone who was willing to become all things to all people so that the gospel might be proclaimed. Sounds like the Apostle Paul. Did you leave your culture when you became a Christian? “The only reason for this was because it was supposedly easier for him to approach people and spread the Gospel”

Sounds like someone who was willing to become all things to all people so that the gospel might be proclaimed. Sounds like the Apostle Paul.

Did you leave your culture when you became a Christian?

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