Simeon

Huh?

If the person writing this site was evangelizing Gods kingdom would be applaunding him for his work but now i doubt as to which kingdom is he working for. Reminds me of the Pharisees with his legalistic views.

Jean

>> Men: Now You know know this truth . . . start applying this in you marriages because now you ARE now accountable before God regarding this. You must help your wife’s to understand this and “protect” them in this matter.
Whenever I teach this to new members in my groups, the ladies are very greatfull for this understanding and the men then start to live in the God given role in the marriage.
2 marriages were saved/turned around because of this in my groups.
Men,you will experience a great improvement in your marriage relationship even if you already have a strong relationship.

Oh.. forgot to add…
I now have a much better understanding of the following scripture:
1Pe 3:7 Ye husbands, in like manner, dwell with your wives according to knowledge, giving honor unto the woman, as unto the weaker vessel, as being also joint-heirs of the grace of life; to the end that your prayers be not hindered.

Now it really makes more sense because we know “something” about the Built-in weakness in the DNA of Ladies …and they can’t really help it unless they receive lots of Grace from God.
Men: Now You know know this truth . . . start applying this in you marriages because now you ARE now accountable before God regarding this. You must help your wife’s to understand this and “protect” them in this matter.
Whenever I teach this to new members in my groups, the ladies are very greatfull for this understanding and the men then start to live in the God given role in the marriage.
2 marriages were saved/turned around because of this in my groups.
Men,you will experience a great improvement in your marriage relationship even if you already have a strong relationship.

I can believe it.

Jean

Well when I read your first comment it immediately made sense. And it made clear a few things I had been pondering about. So thanks for that.

It’s actually sad though, actually sad is not the word, it’s pathetic that evil has changed the entire way God planned for us to live. Men (because of sin) allowed women to become the head, women (because of sin) insist on being the head.

Now you have ‘christian’ movements (like Oom Angus Buchan) trying to force submission onto women that is not godly either because he preaches a false gospel where men are the high priests of the home. How blasphemous is that.

Yet at the same time Angus is going to speak with Elza Meyer at the Union buildings on the 6th March (along with a whole host of others)at some huge gathering that I am sure will be broadcast on God TV.

Oh.. forgot to add…
I now have a much better understanding of the following scripture:
1Pe 3:7 Ye husbands, in like manner, dwell with your wives according to knowledge, giving honor unto the woman, as unto the weaker vessel, as being also joint-heirs of the grace of life; to the end that your prayers be not hindered.

Now it really makes more sense because we know “something” about the Built-in weakness in the DNA of Ladies …and they can’t really help it unless they receive lots of Grace from God.
Men: Now You know know this truth . . . start applying this in you marriages because now you ARE now accountable before God regarding this. You must help your wife’s to understand this and “protect” them in this matter.
Whenever I teach this to new members in my groups, the ladies are very greatfull for this understanding and the men then start to live in the God given role in the marriage.
2 marriages were saved/turned around because of this in my groups.
Men,you will experience a great improvement in your marriage relationship even if you already have a strong relationship.

@ Deborah…
When I discovered this, my whole understanding and attitude towards woman and in particular my wife changed… I just realized how my wife really needs my help (protection) in this. I actually went to my wife and asked her to forgive me for “helping” her into a leadership/teaching role.

When I discovered this, I checked it also with Moody institute, John McAthur, Jacob Prasch and Arnold Frughtenbaum and they all confirmed the Hebrew meaning and interpretation.
I then went to 2 local Theologians with doctorates in theology and they also confirmed this AND they told me that the pastors and Dominees did also learn this in their studies in seminary…

Now I am just plain angry at all the Dominees and Pastors who know this and yet they still promote/allow and then follow Woman leadership in churches…

The following scripture came to mind:
1Co 15:33 Be not deceived: Evil companionships corrupt good morals.
The church system in the world today IS evil and it corrupts everybody who is part of it ! AMEN !

Jean

>> The last part of this curse is “and thy desire shall be to thy husband” actually means: The woman will try to take the place of the man.
Do you see the problem? It is actually in a woman’s fallen nature to want to “take over” or “rule over” the husband. Now we understand woman’s Lib.

Now that is interesting! wow… Thank you for that Jean.

@ Celia . . .
I applaud you. Not many Ladies on hearing or discovering the truth, want to “submit” into their God give role.

A few years back, I had a very interesting experience with my wife on this issue of woman teaching. I then had not learned the truth about this yet.
My wife has got the ability to really teach and explain things well. I thus encouraged her to used this in a woman’s bible study group . She would then always bring her “lesson” to me to check if it was ok/sound and then she would give it to the group. If anyone of the ladies had a problem with what was taught, they had to come to me and I dealt with it. This worked great for a short while with me until she started struggling with her role as wife being in “submission” to her husband. She came to me and complained that after a meeting, she did not want to came back home and then do the “normal” things again. No, she wanted to just teach and “enjoy” the attention. What also started happening was that she did not want to accept sometimes the “corrections” I would make to her lessons. Later, we actually laughed because she would fall in love with a certain scripture or verse and would then try to twist and turn and manipulate it to try and fit it into her lessons… Wheee Emotions Rule ! ;-)
After many long “midnight” talks, she decided to stop teaching and just be a “strong” witness. a Month later she came to me again and said that she has so much peace now regarding this.

This prompted me to, for the first time, really study the role of woman in God’s creation and Word.
A week or 2 later I got given a book by David Pawson “Leadership is Male” and all the pieces started falling into place.

Yes, a woman MUST be a witness and yes, she can teach younger woman to love their husbands and children etc (Tit 2:4)
I truly believe that we should pray more for woman in regards to their witnessing in this world. I mean, If I look at the 1 Peter 3 guidelines, it can’t be easy especially with the curse of Gen 3:16 also hanging over their heads.

Let me explain:
Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy conception; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

The last part of this curse is “and thy desire shall be to thy husband” actually means: The woman will try to take the place of the man.
Do you see the problem? It is actually in a woman’s fallen nature to want to “take over” or “rule over” the husband.
Now we understand woman’s Lib.

I “canceled” my efforts/plans to do my pastoral ship. because this is how I also understood the Word. it does not keep me though from being a witness where-ever and when-ever!
cecilia