Thoughts: What does an Encounter mean or is that a G12?
There seems to be a few Word of Faith churches in South Africa who speak of encounters. Multiple ones might I add. Now…this encounter terminology is Occult terminology. Here is a Church in Port Elizabeth (Word of Faith Christian Centre – Jimmy and Mariana Crompton) who is attracting people to their church via Spiritualism, they call it the G12 (what ever that means…quite frankly it does not matter, they could have called it ‘Bullet Point ’ when one views a bullet point in HTML Code it shows up as the following: •
When you enter a trance like state either after intense ‘praise and worship’ or ‘getting people to open themselves up and express their emotions’ or via contemplation, mantras or clearing ones mind, yoga, breathing, etc. You encounter ‘yourself’.
Most people do not know that what they are actually encountering are demonic spirits who give you extreme peace and a joy unlike anything ever experienced. Now you ask, if I am encountering my inner self how on earth can I be encountering demonic spirits? Well, when you encounter yourself, you become balanced or centered within creation. You feel one with creation. God is creation and God is in creation. You enter into a godlike state of consciousness. Yourself = The god in you. Yourself = God.
This is the LIE you will experience once you reach this ‘SECRET’ place. Satan appears as an Angel of Light. What you think is your inner light is not you, but Satan.
Churches in South Africa have introduced training, programmes, studies, camps, weekend get aways and cell groups to introduce people to a ‘journey’ that will ‘change their lives’. This journey will expose people to the False Christ disguised as Jesus Christ. This journey will destroy your soul…but:
I pray that people who have been introduced to this New Age Spiritualism repent of their sin, ask Jesus Christ the Son of God to come into their lives by believing the True gospel of Jesus Christ. That Jesus died on a cross for our sins that we might be saved, and He rose again and is seated at the right hand of The Father. Jesus Christ is coming back soon and will judge everyone. No one is excluded. And if you choose wickedness over Jesus Christ you will face the consequences of YOUR choice.
Realise this: Hell was created FOR Satan. At the end, all who were lead astray by Satan will burn with Him in an everlasting fire. Satan and his minions do not get to torture you, he will burn WITH you.
God loves all those who believe His Word and accept His Son Jesus Christ and genuinely REPENT OF THEIR SIN, whereby the Holy Spirit comes to abide in you. But God WILL show wrath to ALL those who choose evil instead.
You can’t change the truth.
In John 14:6 Jesus said,
“I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
And this is not The Christ that the world is following in droves. Only through Jesus Christ the Son of God can you have a personal relationship with The Father!
If God says He will punish those who willingly go against Him, then this is what He will do. Your beliefs will never change what will happen in the future. So thinking that God would never punish you because God is Love, is like burying your head in the sand. Completely useless!
Below I have listed all churches affiliated to Word of Faith Christian Centre: [1]
- Word of Faith Christian Centre
- Central Fellowship
- Cornerstone Worship Centre
- Light on a Hill Christian Fellowship
- Zwide Christian Centre
- Shekinah Ministries
- Elohim Christian Centre
- The Branch Family Church
- Word of Faith Uitenhage
- New Dawn Move of Christ Foundation Ministries
Some names of people involved with this church: [2]
- Prophets: Don Flynn, Denvar Marks and Stephen and Elise Botha.
- Deliverence: James Lottering
- Gifts of Healing: Ronnie Sampson
- They consider the following as ’mighty men of God’: Rodney Howard-Browne, Kim Clement, Hamilton Filmalter, Mark Beale, Jérome Nel
They run an Education department as well: [2]
- Baby Heaven
- Noah’s Ark Pre-Primary School
- Willow Academy Junior and Senior School.
Resources: [1] http://www.wordoffaith.org.za/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=9&Itemid=27 [2] http://www.wordoffaith.org.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10&Itemid=49 Main website: http://www.wordoffaith.org.za
DELETED: Promoting a health and wealth business under the disguise of a ministry.
Rose
Wow!! Would you be able to email me some more info on this please (if possible). Email address in the ‘About this Blog’ page at the top right of the blog.
“connected to the Jesuits G12 organisation” again…WOW!!
Some of your claims are simply not true. I used to be a member of Word of Fath and encounter simply refers to encountering God i.e. being in a really anointed meeting at a camp in which you worship God and people get saved/delivered etc.
May I add Word of Faith does NOT ever refer to you encounter yourself and they are not for yoga!
The journey just simply refers to a bible course when you join the church (pre-encounter), going on a camp (encounter), a course after the camp (post-encounter) then going on 3 course where you learn how to be a cell leader.
They are not for New Age stuff. They preach that you must ask Jesus Christ the Son of God to come into your life by believing the True gospel of Jesus Christ. That Jesus died on a cross for our sins that we might be saved, and He rose again and is seated at the right hand of The Father. That Jesus Christ is coming back soon and will judge everyone. They know that Hell was created FOR Satan. And that at the end, all who were lead astray by Satan will burn with Him in an everlasting fire etc.
They believe that God loves all those who believe His Word and accept His Son Jesus Christ and genuinely REPENT OF THEIR SIN, whereby the Holy Spirit comes to abide in you and God WILL show wrath to ALL those who choose evil instead.
They believe only through Jesus Christ the Son of God can you have a personal relationship with The Father!
They know that if God says He will punish those who willingly go against Him, then this is what He will do and that your beliefs will never change what will happen in the future and that thinking that God would never punish you because God is Love, is like burying your head in the sand. Completely useless! as you have said claiming they don’t believe that.
Most of what you say is true doctine, but claiming that Word of Faith church doesn’t believe this is simply not true! Please talk to the pastor of the church and hear for yourself if you don’t believe me.
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You say you used to be a member of Word of Faith. What do you believe in now?
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>>> Please talk to the pastor of the church and hear for yourself if you dont believe me.
Better suggestion, please open your bible and study it to find out the truth.
G12 is a method by which cell groups are run and is based on the idea that Jesus had 12 discipels and gave them the commision to go and make disciples as He taught them.
If you google “G12 cell groups” you will find a number of sites explaining the G12 Vision. This is from Wikipedia:
Oh man, I typed a whole nice comment here and then my laptop crashed *sniffs*
Anyhow basically what I was saying….This is Law and Jewish Mysticism (Kabbalah) or Numerology all this falls into the category of Occulticism/Esotericism which has been combined with Christianity.
In this case we can’t take Wikipedias word on what this ‘encounter’ stuff means. You need to do more research. Teaching people half truth and half error equates to error.
They say that “Also in these encounters there is extensive prayer and use of common symbolic acts to define the end of the old and beginning of the new.”
What common symbolic act(s) are they talking about here? Baptism only or? When the thief hung on the cross next to Jesus Christ all he did was believe that Jesus was the Son of God and genuinely repent of his sin. The guy didn’t even get to be baptised let alone get to do anything symbolic, ritualistic etc.
Luke 23:35-43
35 And the people stood by, looking on. And even the rulers were sneering at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is the Christ of God, His Chosen One.”
36 The soldiers also mocked Him, coming up to Him, offering Him sour wine,
37 and saying, “If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!”
38 Now there was also an inscription above Him, “THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”
39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!”
40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?
41 “And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.”
42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!”
43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”
This for me is one of the most wonderful passages. An evil man, a sinner, a man who did absolutely nothing worldly to deserve salvation, deserve to be saved. Born into a sinful world, remained sinful UNTIL that moment of being born again and Jesus said, ‘TODAY you shall be with me in Paradise”. This thief did not one single good work, no love came from this man, until He loved Jesus Christ the Son of God and repented of his wickedness. The other man…well…where did he go after he died? To Paradise? Yes or No?
The thief/murderer a man who must have done something very bad to land up being crucified said: “But the other answered, and rebuking him said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?” In other words, we all REMAIN in SIN until such time as we GENUINEY REPENT and all of mankind is SENTENCED TO CONDEMNATION, to PERSISH. Yes God sent His SON Jesus Christ to save the world because He loves us – BUT that does NOT give an automatic get out of jail free card. Jesus died for us, yet practically the entire earth HATES him. They say the love Christ and God is love, but they can’t wait to hurl abide at Him like the other man on the cross did to Jesus Christ. It works both ways. God is a God of Love to those who love Him and stand up for the Truth and He is a God of Wrath to those who hate Him and He will CONDEM ALL who choose to follow other gods and other so called truths over His commandments, over His Word, over His CLEAR instructions. God does everything for HIS Glory. He will NEVER tolerate His creation disobeying Him. I mean really who do we think we are? God wiped out the earth once because they were so sinful He could NOT TOLERATE it but saved and saved Noah some others because they were love God. What makes anything one God has changed His attitude since. Yes God sent a sign that he would not do that again, until the END came. So yes, there is an end no matter which way you look at it. Notice that God could only find Noah and a handful of others out of probably millions of people who obeyed Him. Its the same today. A handful of genuine born again Christians stuck in world of false teaching telling everyone that there will be no End. The delusion is strong I tell you.
So as we can see all these rituals/symbolic acts and camping trips is all a load of nonsense and nothing but taking the grace of God and turning it into law with a sprinkling of occult teaching to make it worse.
Also all this ” teaching on holiness, prayer, fellowship with God, forgiving, tithing, speaking life, walking in the Spirit, demonic liberation (which is also called casting out the enemy or deliverance), healing the sick, winning souls for Christ, having patience and bearing fruit.” is all based on Metaphysical cult teaching. Word of Faith – you have the power in your words to make things happen. One once again we land up with New Age Emergent teaching. Word of Faith / New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and Emergent is all intertwined. Same teaching – different terminology.
It’s like a big spider web. One World Religion (Satan) in the middle and all religions/faiths/beliefs branching off but at the same time coming back to the main idea the beginning (Genesis). We can take control of earth, make it our domain and rule over it as gods just as Satan wanted to do: take God’s place and rule over His creation.