Paul

That’s the usual response from Joyce Meyer fans

Hi Deborah,
I sent this article to a good friend of mine who is a big fan of Meyer, hoping and praying her eyes will be openned.
She replied to me that she read the article and couldn’t discern what the author found wrong with Meyer (what the author is reproaching Meyer). She says the article is very superficial and is very lacking in depth. She says her answer to the author are the following 2 passages:
Matthew 12:24-28 and Philippians 1:12-18

She could have commented directly on the blog, but she chose to reply to me instead. I don’t know if there is any use for me asking her to send her reply as a comment on the blog.

I’m very saddened and will continue praying for her.

Please keep on the good work, and the Lord Jesus Christ will continue using this blog to open the eyes of a few. Yes, saddly, only a few.

Paul

Joyce has been off the track for quite some time, pity, she is a powerful speaker. I used to listen to her everyday when I first became a Christian but found from an apologist how she so eloquently twisted the word. I will still pray for her, she serves the wrong master and needs saving…

You are spot on Steve…I started to see the falseness in these charlatans too…Joyce Meyer is way off and belongs to the lying brigade…I was worshipping in one of these word faith set-ups…it was all about money…big money…one of the deacons is one of the top 28 billionaires in SA…these people are obsessed by money…okay it is not a sin to be rich but to love and worship money, materialism and comfort is…I was castigated by the pastor for denouncing Benny Hinn as a false prophet…he actually told me to repent as I was speaking against God’s annointed even though Benny Hinn is a liar and yes so are most of the gang. When I started to read the lies and statements these imposters made it was my saving grace…I fled and today I realise that we must pray for God’s mercy on these people and that He brings them to a place where they can and want to repent.

It is a deep and dark sinister thing happening in the church today…it has a very big stronghold on people because people love pleasure,power, indulgence and ego…no different to the world…prosperity is a very evil cult. Yes God does supply your needs if you trust Him but never your greed…when I see people prospering and claiming it from the Lord I often ask the question…is it God or is it the devil…God supplies your needs but the devil spoils us??

Thanks Steve

I renounced a deep occult and new age life for the sake of Christ. I needed to cause it nearly took my life. Having fallen for so many false teachings when into the new age/occult I can smell them a mile off. I have heard them all before and Joyce Meyer is blatantly new age and self-help in her philosophy. It jumped out at me where she said how we can “give God glory in the process.” I am sorry Joyce, but God’s glory is the ONLY reason we should do anything, not just give Him glory in a process we are happening to go through. She blatantly twists scripture. Saying we are all Gods, whether with a little or captiaal G is something that I heard numerous times in the new age/occult. We are humans and God’s children. We are supposed to depend on HIM for all our needs, not conjure them up by the power of our positive thoguths. As the article said, and I speak from past practice, this is an essential practice in witch craft. To be honest, since I left that balloney behind I do not need to think myself into a better life, because God is quite capable of providing what we need. And where in the Bible say that we are to expect happiness and no problems? Yes, we get joy in the Lord, but we are told to expect troubles and persecutions. If she cannot cope with being accused of false teaching and has to lash out against it, then that just shows she is not living for Christ who told us we would be persecuted. In fact He told us to rejoice when we are, not kick against it as she does.

With regard to taking planks out of eyes. We are told to love everyone, but to HATE SIN. We are instruicted to expose the deeds of darkness. And after learning for myself the sheer dangers of teachings such as Joyce Meyers I would not be faithful to the Lord if I turned a blind eye, none of us would. It is our duty as Christians to speak against the evils of this world, even at the cost of ourselves being given a hard time. Those on here who have spoken against this evil, for the right reasons – ie. exposing the truth, they have clear consciences. We are to spread the true word of God, not suppress it with people pleasing philosophies.

Jenny

You can be filled with doubt until the cows come home, the truth still remains the truth. Those are HER WORDS, “I am a little God”.

And pagans use the Golden rule as well. So your point is? You want to be a god too but don’t want anyone to point fingers at you? WHAT DID SATAN say to EVE in the garden of Eden?

I am filled with doubt about the accuracy of this whole article. Surely someone who believed they can discern a false teacher would know the Golden Rule is not pagan, but the words of Jesus Christ himself.

Luke 6:31
31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

Thanks TB, glad we are on the same page. I didn’t get from your comment that you meant that Debs didn’t speak the truth in love – but maybe I missed something. Anyway, she has a spunky style and some may interpret it as unloving, but the motivation behind this blog is love, love for God’s truth and love for sheep that are being led to the slaughter. She has little patience with wolves who promote false teaching,those who support them and neither do I. She rips off their masks with no apologies necessary. Jesus was no namby-pamby – He cleansed the temple and lit into the self-righteous legalists.

Grace and peace to you also and may the Lord lead and guide you into all truth.

TB

You didn’t answer my question. Where have I said anything that is not in love?