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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13091</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy

Oh so your only complaint (one instance) is that I found an Occult website that teaches the same teaching as Joyce Meyer and praises her for it, or should we say Joyce Meyer teaches the same teaching as Occult New Age websites?

So, if a so called Christian preacher preached from the satanic bible, or a satanist preached from the bible, it would, as per &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;, be something that should be ignored, not included as VITAL evidence and chucked out of court?

How about I just chuck you off my blog before you come back with more rubbish to waste our time with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy</p>
<p>Oh so your only complaint (one instance) is that I found an Occult website that teaches the same teaching as Joyce Meyer and praises her for it, or should we say Joyce Meyer teaches the same teaching as Occult New Age websites?</p>
<p>So, if a so called Christian preacher preached from the satanic bible, or a satanist preached from the bible, it would, as per <em>you</em>, be something that should be ignored, not included as VITAL evidence and chucked out of court?</p>
<p>How about I just chuck you off my blog before you come back with more rubbish to waste our time with.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13057</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda

I do hope Randy comes back and explain what he meant here, because Burning Lamp also seem to understand it the same way Grant and my self did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda</p>
<p>I do hope Randy comes back and explain what he meant here, because Burning Lamp also seem to understand it the same way Grant and my self did.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13056</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy

You caused some confusion there, didn&#039;t you?

Grant and Elmarie, he was quoting DTW&#039;s article. &quot;This website&quot; does not refer to DTW, but the New Age one who loves Joyce Meyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy</p>
<p>You caused some confusion there, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Grant and Elmarie, he was quoting DTW&#8217;s article. &#8220;This website&#8221; does not refer to DTW, but the New Age one who loves Joyce Meyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13054</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy

You missed the next sentence that explains in what way they are alike. Here you go:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The reason why they pick her as a beautiful, loving soul is because they are speaking the same language – they both believe the same Christ Consciousness Occultism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
By the way, Randy, did you know that one day you will face a righteous Judge and it is not sound logic that can save you from the wrath to come, but faith in a righteous Saviour who died to take the punishment you deserve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy</p>
<p>You missed the next sentence that explains in what way they are alike. Here you go:</p>
<blockquote><p>The reason why they pick her as a beautiful, loving soul is because they are speaking the same language – they both believe the same Christ Consciousness Occultism.</p></blockquote>
<p>By the way, Randy, did you know that one day you will face a righteous Judge and it is not sound logic that can save you from the wrath to come, but faith in a righteous Saviour who died to take the punishment you deserve?</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy

Firstly and most importantly, this website (Discerning the World that is), owes it&#039;s existence to the fact that the true Gospel needs to be defended &lt;b&gt; AGAINST &lt;/b&gt; New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and all Occult teaching. 

This website contains hundreds of articles specifically aimed at exposing the falsities of preachers like Joyce Meyer. How did you come to your conclusion that this site defends Joyce Meyer? 

It is clear from the opinion of 268 articles on THIS website that it stands AGAINST new age/occult teachings. It is clear from the opinion of THIS website that it stands AGAINST the teachings of Joyce Meyer. It is clear from HER teachings that Joyce Meyer is FOR new age/occult. 

Using your simplification then, A opposes B, and A opposes C, because B and C are the same. How does that equate to faulty logic?

I suggest you read again.

Secondly, just for interests sake, Christians do not take Christian matters to courts of law, for various reasons. Primarily because God tells us not to 1 Corinthians 6:1-8 which makes it clear that courts of law judge matters of the world according to worldly standards.   Appealing to court of law in matters of the church is akin to spiritual defeat. Matters of the church should not be subjected to the laws of men. Why then be a Christian at all?

Thirdly, how do you know that this author is not a high court judge:)?!

Peace to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy</p>
<p>Firstly and most importantly, this website (Discerning the World that is), owes it&#8217;s existence to the fact that the true Gospel needs to be defended <b> AGAINST </b> New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and all Occult teaching. </p>
<p>This website contains hundreds of articles specifically aimed at exposing the falsities of preachers like Joyce Meyer. How did you come to your conclusion that this site defends Joyce Meyer? </p>
<p>It is clear from the opinion of 268 articles on THIS website that it stands AGAINST new age/occult teachings. It is clear from the opinion of THIS website that it stands AGAINST the teachings of Joyce Meyer. It is clear from HER teachings that Joyce Meyer is FOR new age/occult. </p>
<p>Using your simplification then, A opposes B, and A opposes C, because B and C are the same. How does that equate to faulty logic?</p>
<p>I suggest you read again.</p>
<p>Secondly, just for interests sake, Christians do not take Christian matters to courts of law, for various reasons. Primarily because God tells us not to 1 Corinthians 6:1-8 which makes it clear that courts of law judge matters of the world according to worldly standards.   Appealing to court of law in matters of the church is akin to spiritual defeat. Matters of the church should not be subjected to the laws of men. Why then be a Christian at all?</p>
<p>Thirdly, how do you know that this author is not a high court judge:)?!</p>
<p>Peace to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13050</link>
		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, I wonder what you think about the Proverbs in God&#039;s Word? Would they hold up in your court of law? No, but you know what? They are truth. 

You talk about faulty logic. Sorry but your example makes no sense. Using your style of logic, here is what the article is saying. If A promotes B and C, then A agrees with B and C or thinks they have validity or they wouldn&#039;t promote them. If B and C have false teaching, then A approves of false teaching. B and C don&#039;t have to be the exact same false teaching. 

Anyone who promotes Joyce Meyer and her mixture of truth and error is either undiscerning or deceived or both.  We all would do well to weigh the warnings about her teaching. The aim of this site is to protect and alert according to the many warnings in the Word. 

I have found that one of the best ways to test a group or site is to see to whom they link. Birds of a feather flock together. That won&#039;t hold up in court but it sure is true.

Grace and peace to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, I wonder what you think about the Proverbs in God&#8217;s Word? Would they hold up in your court of law? No, but you know what? They are truth. </p>
<p>You talk about faulty logic. Sorry but your example makes no sense. Using your style of logic, here is what the article is saying. If A promotes B and C, then A agrees with B and C or thinks they have validity or they wouldn&#8217;t promote them. If B and C have false teaching, then A approves of false teaching. B and C don&#8217;t have to be the exact same false teaching. </p>
<p>Anyone who promotes Joyce Meyer and her mixture of truth and error is either undiscerning or deceived or both.  We all would do well to weigh the warnings about her teaching. The aim of this site is to protect and alert according to the many warnings in the Word. </p>
<p>I have found that one of the best ways to test a group or site is to see to whom they link. Birds of a feather flock together. That won&#8217;t hold up in court but it sure is true.</p>
<p>Grace and peace to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Elmarie</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13049</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy

&lt;blockquote&gt; “This website is dedicated to New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and Christ Consciousness (all Occult teaching). This website also thinks Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since someone found holes in the moon. If Joyce Meyer was preaching genuine Christian teaching, this website would have been dedicated to someone other than her.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No Yikes halooo Randy huh.... I think you had better read again please. This blog is doing exactly the Opposite of what you are saying in you comment. 

Randy this is a DISCERNMENT blog. It actually Warns against the teachings of Joyce Meyer and many more false teachers and self proclaimed prophets and false churches with false teachings. 

&lt;blockquote&gt; any good lawyer could shoot your arguments to pieces. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Nooooo Please !!! no one may shoot any one to pieces on this blog!!! lol lol lol lol :-)) We may admonish and correct each other in Love that is the correct way of doing things here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy</p>
<blockquote><p> “This website is dedicated to New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and Christ Consciousness (all Occult teaching). This website also thinks Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since someone found holes in the moon. If Joyce Meyer was preaching genuine Christian teaching, this website would have been dedicated to someone other than her.” </p></blockquote>
<p>No Yikes halooo Randy huh&#8230;. I think you had better read again please. This blog is doing exactly the Opposite of what you are saying in you comment. </p>
<p>Randy this is a DISCERNMENT blog. It actually Warns against the teachings of Joyce Meyer and many more false teachers and self proclaimed prophets and false churches with false teachings. </p>
<blockquote><p> any good lawyer could shoot your arguments to pieces. </p></blockquote>
<p>Nooooo Please !!! no one may shoot any one to pieces on this blog!!! lol lol lol lol :-)) We may admonish and correct each other in Love that is the correct way of doing things here.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-13037</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not defending Joyce Meyer, but I would like to defend sound argument. You&#039;re ways of writing wouldn&#039;t hold up in a court of law and any good lawyer could shoot your arguments to pieces. 

One example out of many: &quot;This website is dedicated to New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and Christ Consciousness (all Occult teaching). This website also thinks Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since someone found holes in the moon.   If Joyce Meyer was preaching genuine Christian teaching, this website would have been dedicated to someone other than her.&quot; 

This statement of yours defies all sound logic and would never hold up in a court of law. You are basically saying, &quot;if A likes B, and A likes C, then B and C are the same.&quot; If I like apples and I like sunsets, then apples and sunsets are the same. If the website likes new age/occult and the website likes Joyce Meyer, then occult and Joyce Meyer are the same.

One instance of very faulty logic, but alas, not enough time to dissect all of the faulty logic in your arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not defending Joyce Meyer, but I would like to defend sound argument. You&#8217;re ways of writing wouldn&#8217;t hold up in a court of law and any good lawyer could shoot your arguments to pieces. </p>
<p>One example out of many: &#8220;This website is dedicated to New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and Christ Consciousness (all Occult teaching). This website also thinks Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since someone found holes in the moon.   If Joyce Meyer was preaching genuine Christian teaching, this website would have been dedicated to someone other than her.&#8221; </p>
<p>This statement of yours defies all sound logic and would never hold up in a court of law. You are basically saying, &#8220;if A likes B, and A likes C, then B and C are the same.&#8221; If I like apples and I like sunsets, then apples and sunsets are the same. If the website likes new age/occult and the website likes Joyce Meyer, then occult and Joyce Meyer are the same.</p>
<p>One instance of very faulty logic, but alas, not enough time to dissect all of the faulty logic in your arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rista

Reminds me of the story of Gloria Copeland telling her congregation about the time they were in their airplane and a tornado appeared in the distance.  And Kenneth Copeland commanded the tornado to disappear and &#039;shooooppsss&#039; it just unravelled itself down to the ground.  So then continued to tell the congregation that Kenneth is like a weatherman - where ever they go they never have bad weather because he just clears those skies.

I wonder if that video is on Youtube.

And I&#039;d love to know where Joyce went for whale watching because for R250 on the south coast in July you get a good ride out into the ocean on a speed boat type thingie, and get up close and personal with whales who have no problems jumping out the water a few meters away from the boat.  Which might I add is very very scary and exciting and amazing all in one go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rista</p>
<p>Reminds me of the story of Gloria Copeland telling her congregation about the time they were in their airplane and a tornado appeared in the distance.  And Kenneth Copeland commanded the tornado to disappear and &#8216;shooooppsss&#8217; it just unravelled itself down to the ground.  So then continued to tell the congregation that Kenneth is like a weatherman &#8211; where ever they go they never have bad weather because he just clears those skies.</p>
<p>I wonder if that video is on Youtube.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d love to know where Joyce went for whale watching because for R250 on the south coast in July you get a good ride out into the ocean on a speed boat type thingie, and get up close and personal with whales who have no problems jumping out the water a few meters away from the boat.  Which might I add is very very scary and exciting and amazing all in one go.</p>
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		<title>By: Rista</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/11/joyce-meyer-is-a-little-god-with-a-christ-consciousness/#comment-10168</link>
		<dc:creator>Rista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DTW, I used to listen to JM until I heard her telling about the time she &#039;commanded&#039; God to show them whales as the whale-watching trip was quite expensive. What kind of message does that convey to people? That God can be ordered around? Sjees. She was one of the few people on TBN that did not make me uncomfortable – these days I simply do not switch to the channel any longer. Rather study my Bible. Tnx anyway for your information on this site – I also have a passion to warn people about the ongoing deception. Scary how many people do not even WANT to hear – they think they are ok if they do not know about everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DTW, I used to listen to JM until I heard her telling about the time she &#8216;commanded&#8217; God to show them whales as the whale-watching trip was quite expensive. What kind of message does that convey to people? That God can be ordered around? Sjees. She was one of the few people on TBN that did not make me uncomfortable – these days I simply do not switch to the channel any longer. Rather study my Bible. Tnx anyway for your information on this site – I also have a passion to warn people about the ongoing deception. Scary how many people do not even WANT to hear – they think they are ok if they do not know about everything.</p>
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