Joyce Meyer is admired by so many people, especially women, it’s actually quite ridiculous. I think it’s mainly because she speaks like a psychologist. So watching her on TV or reading her books is like lying on that big leather sofa in a psychologists office and you get to speak you heart out all they while they tell you how to manage your life. I also think that many women wish they could be like her.
Now lets get down to the nitty gritty. Have you noticed how quickly Joyce Meyer speaks. She is a bullet train. You can’t keep up with what she is actually saying! She mis-quotes scripture just as fast. This is such a brilliant tactic. She does not give you any time to take in what she is ACTUALLY saying. Of course I can’t apply this to her books, because everyone reads at a different pace. But she still mis-quotes scripture, and she knows no one will actually check to see if what she is quoting really lines up to the truth. Sneaky Sneaky.
Why do false teachers always come up with such clever means of deceiving people. Because Satan is actually very clever and knows exactly how to stop you from thinking for yourself and will always prevent you from going to the Bible to see if what he says is actually so. Which of course it never ever will be true, for he is the father of lies.
So Joyce Meyer is a Word of Faith / Latter Rain and Emerging Church preacher (Yes Emerging, it’s a shock I know) . She constantly preaches positive confessions. If you speak good things into your life, then good things will happen. If you speak positive things, then positive things will happen. This is exactly the same as the Law of Attraction or Law of Return which IS Occult teaching.
It works on the same principle as witchcraft’s The Wiccan Rede – “If no harm is done, do as you will”. Or the Emergents; The Golden Rule – “Do unto others as you would have them do to you”. So whatever energy a person puts out into the world, be it positive or negative, it will be returned to that person three times. But this also depends on what you believe and is not necessarily threefold. It could be more, like a hundredfold in Word of Faith teaching lol. So what is the Eastern philosophical term for all this? The Law of Karma!
Positive Confession is actually a spell. You are casting a spell by ‘confessing’ what you want. All you don’t have is a wand, but you do have a Joyce Meyer spell book. All Joyce Meyer’s is short of is a hat and a broom.
Years ago Word of Faith entered the public scene with massive revivals through the likes of William Branham et al. The ‘religion’ of Word of Faith is a culmination of Metaphysical cult ideas mixed with Orthodox Christian teaching. But no one knew this back then, everyone raised their hands and said, ‘Hallelujah!’ Church became exciting, the spirit was moving and people were being ’saved’ left right and centre. The Baptists were old school, the Methodists, well no one was really sure what they believed, but the Charismatics…well, they were genuine men and women of God.
Word of Faith teaching ±70 years ago contained 90% genuine Christian teaching. ±30 years ago it contained 80% genuine Christian teaching. Now they are 99% false teaching. It’s so bad that they now openly proclaim the Little God teaching i.e., All is God and God is in All (Pantheism/Panentheism). They have taken scripture in the bible and twisted it completely, with no shame what-so-ever!
So when the bible tells us that when you are genuinely saved, the Holy Spirit comes to abide in you and you are then continuously filled with the Holy Spirit as you grow in your faith and become like Christ. They on the other hand are actually referring to the fact that you actually become a Christ. That you can do what Jesus did, that you can now have the SAME authority as Jesus did by speaking your god faith out loud! That as you grow in knowledge you move up the Transcendental ladder and will one day be on the same level as Jesus Christ. Of course they did not preach this message outright ±20 years ago, and would deny that this is what they actually meant (some of them not even sure what they meant). NOW they openly say it, but still have the audacity to deny that this is what they really mean. How stupid do they think we are? Well it seems most meet their expectations.
Ever wondered why Word of Faith teachers always have such lavish stage settings of gold chairs, gold ornaments and ridiculous over the top bling. Are they trying to recreate heaven? Are they little gods in their heaven on earth? Just a thought.
So here is Joyce Meyer teaching the Little God teaching. Notice how she first says she does not agree with the teaching and then goes on to agree with the teaching and then quotes scripture (very fast of course) to back-up the teaching. They have to make sure you will never keep up.
Why do we not notice these oh so obvious things? Or do we notice these things and instead of being utterly disgusted we push them aside and make like we did not hear it? All the while it’s been embedded in our subconscious. Like subliminal messages of, ”it might come as a shock, but you know you like it”.
The god with a little g that we are supposed to be as per Joyce Meyer is The Christ consciousness that the Occult teach we all have inside of us. And Word of Faith / Latter Rain teach the exact same thing. They just speak the message differently, using different examples and different terminology. But it’s the exact same New Age idea. She speaks about Jesus Christ, but she is NOT speaking about the real Jesus Christ of the Bible but the Occult Christ that embodies all religions and allows us to think we are gods (big or small g it does not matter). For all is God and God is in All.
New Age teaching is not new! It’s ancient satanic knowledge that has been purposely made known, let out of the proverbial Pandora’s box in order to ensnare the entire world at just at the right time in history – the end times. What once was a secret is no more. Now you can get The Secret first hand at your local Christian book store, step by step instructions on how to ascend to god level.
I have transcribed the Joyce Meyer video, cos reading at ones own pace will hopefully help you take in what she is really saying.
Joyce Meyer teaches little god teaching:
He and I were listening to a set of tapes by one man, he explained it like this….and I think this kinda gets the point across. [note: wonder why she does not mention Creflo Dollars name as he proposed the little God theory quite a while back]
He said: ”you know, why do people have such a fit about God calling His creation His creation? His man, not his whole creation but His man, little gods? If He is God what’s He gonna call them? But the god-kind! I mean if you as a human being have a baby you call it a humankind, if, if cattle have another cattle, they call it cattle kind. So I mean, what’s God supposed to call us? Does not the bible say we are created in His image?” (Amen from the audience).
Now you understand I’m not saying you are God with a capital G. That is not the issue here! So don’t go trying to stone me or yell blasphemy at me. The bible says, right here in John 10:34…let’s read this again, well lets just start again from verse 32. (Notice how she reads the Bible at Mach 1 speed)
“Jesus said to them, My Father has enabled Me to do many good deeds. [I have shown many acts of mercy in your presence.] For which of these do you mean to stone Me? The Jews replied, We are not going to stone You for a good act, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere Man, make Yourself [out to be] God. Jesus answered, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods?” (Joyce adds by saying, ”little g” to the end of the verse. Note: This verse is taken from the Amplified bible)
So men are called gods by the law, men to whom gods message came and the scripture can not be set aside, cancelled or broken, or annulled. Now if this is true, (Joyce is now referring to Jesus speaking) ”You say of the the One whom the Father consecrated, dedicated, set apart for Himself, and sent into the world, you are blaspheming because I said I am the Son of God! See when He began to say, “I’m the Son of God”, then they began to yell blasphemy.
Well I want you all to know that you are sons and daughters of All Mighty God. (Amen from audience). He has birthed us, we are born again, new creatures in Christ Jesus. We need to understand who we are, and what it is we’re supposed to be doing. And if we can get that revelation refreshed in us, but stay in some realm of balance, then I believe that God can use us in this last hour for many mighty acts and in the process we can give Him all the glory.
Oh I tell you I feel good about this. Don’t you feel good about it? (Amen from the audience).
I wish you had an amplified bible in front you but if you don’t then you may just have to listen here. If we study Psalm 82:
“GOD STANDS in the assembly [of the representatives] of God” (Joyce then interrupts and says, “That’s us you know, see I’m a representative of God. The bible says that God stands in the midst of those representatives. She then carries on with the verse). “…in the midst of the magistrates or judges He gives judgement [as] among the gods.” (She ends verse saying “little ‘g” then continues). ”…How long will you [magistrates or judges] judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? [pause, and calmly think of that]!” Verse[sic] 3, (Joyce adds: He might as well just add here, “this is why I’ve given you power”) “…that you can do justice to the weak (poor) and fatherless; maintain the rights of the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy; rescue them out of the hand of the wicked”.
God has given us power and authority in these last days, that we might help hurting people. Let me ask you a question; “When He empowered the twelve and He empowered the seventy what did He tell them? Go preach the gospel, cast out devils, heal the sick? Every where you go help, hurting people! We’ve got to understand that when power is delegated to us it is to help hurting people! (Amen from audience). It’s not for us to go and necessarily try to help ourselves all the time. But to help hurting people! And certainly you want to take authority over the enemy when he is coming against you. But the main thing is you want to help hurting people.
“Verse 5, …[The magistrates and judges] know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in the darkness [of complacent satisfaction]; (Joyce adds: “Now this is interesting…”) …all the foundations of the earth [the fundamental principles upon which rests the administration of justice] are shaking.”
I was listening to a man teach this week and he said that because people are not taking their proper places. Because God’s people are not taking their proper places everything on the earth is out of balance. All the foundations of the earth is supposed to be built upon are shaking in this hour. Cos God’s people are not taking their proper places! We’ve let the devil have what belongs to us! (Audience responds with approval).
Verse 6; “I said, You are gods [since you judge on My behalf, as My representatives]; indeed, all of you are children of the Most High.”
It is important that we know who we are and that we walk with that power consciousness.
And if that does not convince you that the Christ she speaks of is NOT the Jesus Christ of the Bible but the New Age Christ. Then have a look at this:
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[DTW emphasis and notes in green below]
Are you a Joyce Meyer Ministries fan? [1]
If you enjoy Joyce Meyer’s teachings and want to hear God’s loving Voice within you in a very clear and recognisable way, you’re in the right place!
Joyce Meyer is a true blessing to millions of people all over the world who desire to deepen their relationship and communication with God. As a leading Christian evangelical teacher, Joyce Meyers clearly demonstrates her deep and abiding relationship with Jesus Christ through the way she lives, as well as through her many inspiring and life changing books. Joyce Meyer is a testament that God speaks to each of us, regardless of our personal backgrounds or challenges in life.
But there is something important that you may not realise.
God speaks to each of us exactly where we are.
What does that mean?
It means that God speaks to us exactly where we are on our path.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine a row of seven people sitting in front of you: a 6-year-old child, a physicist, a Catholic priest, a rebellious teenager, a mother of 10 children, a Buddhist monk, and a police officer. Now imagine that each one of these people asks God the same exact question. It could be about anything . What would be in the highest good for me to say or do as I walk past this beggar on the street? What is my true purpose in life? What message would you have me impart to this group of elementary school students on career day? How can I best serve the world? Is it my highest good to invest in the stock market? What should I say or do when someone yells at me or threatens me?
Regardless of the question, do you know what each person is going to hear when they ask God the same question as everyone else?
They’re going to hear something totally unique to them. The 6-year-old child will not receive the same answer as the rebellious teenager, the Catholic priest, or the police officer. The mother of 10 will hear something different than the physicist or Buddhist monk. Each person has their own background, education, and belief system. Each one is learning their own unique lessons in life. Therefore, God will speak to each person exactly where they are on their path. One person may be learning about kindness or compassion, while another person may be learning about forgiveness, abundance, or self-empowerment. What one person needs to hear to re-connect with God [Note: The god of all beliefs/religions, all paths lead to the same god] and their True Self [Note: Christ consciousness] is most likely different than what another person needs to hear.
In addition, we are constantly evolving and changing in our understanding and awareness. The lessons we were learning 10 years ago are most likely different from the lessons we are learning today. [Note: God says His Word is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow]. In fact, who we are in this moment is different than who we were three months ago, three weeks ago, and even three days ago. Each time we open up to a deeper understanding and experience of Love and Peace in our lives, the fabric of our mind changes. We could probably ask God the same question every year for the rest of our lives and receive a different answer every time we asked because what we are learning and assimilating in each moment is different. [Note: Emergent teaching that the bible can be interpreted any which way you want, depending on who you are, where you live and what mood you are in]. What we need to hear right now to restore ourselves to God is unique to this moment.
What does this have to do with Joyce Meyer?
Joyce Meyer is a beautiful soul and a wonderful teacher. She shares God’s Voice with millions of people all over the world in exactly the right way for them. But what if it were possible for you to hear God’s Voice just as clearly and intimately as she does?
What if you could experience God’s unconditional love for you EXACTLY AS YOU ARE?
What if you could learn to love yourself unconditionally, let go of ALL self judgement, fear, and guilt, and experience the freedom and peace of knowing that you remain exactly as God created you to be? [Note: no such thing as sin anymore]. What if you could learn how to hear God’s Voice within you in a very clear and recognisable way so that you can receive the comfort, guidance, and healing that you seek in your life?
If your answer is YES, now is the time to take the next step and receive the unconditional love and guidance that God has to give you.
Here are the products offered by this website: [emphasis added]
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- See the world through God’s eyes
- Understand the connection between being and creation
- Fulfil your life’s purpose
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Close your eyes as you listen to these guided meditations and allow the words of the Holy Spirit to gently guide your awareness ever deeper into the experience of your Divine Self!
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This website is dedicated to New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and Christ Consciousness (all Occult teaching). This website also thinks Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since someone found holes in the moon. If Joyce Meyer was preaching genuine Christian teaching, this website would have been dedicated to someone other than her. The reason why they pick her as a beautiful, loving soul is because they are speaking the same language – they both believe the same Christ Consciousness Occultism.
NEVER EVER will genuine Christians agree in ANY WAY with false teaching. And genuine Christians will NEVER EVER make excuses for wicked people’s behaviour either. If you make excuses for them, then you belittle Jesus Christ.
Conclusion:
Joyce Meyer is just another Oprah Winfrey. BUT Joyce Meyer is WORSE because she tells everyone she is a Christian, reads out of the bible and preaches to Christian audiences. Oprah is at least honest and admits she is not a Christian and refuses the Bible in every way. At least with Oprah, we know what we are dealing with. Joyce Meyer is conniving, lethal in her message, and a liar second to none.
Here is the Joyce Meyer Youtube video that I transcribed above:
Resources: [1] http://www.thevoiceforlove.com/joyce-meyer.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Three_(Wiccan)
I’ve stumbled onto you website today and find it quite interesting. I am certainly going to read as much as I can. I would just like to find out – almost everyone you point out as a false teacher is someone whom I’ve heard of before. Could you perhaps list some people whose work we can read that you consider to be genuine?
gbrgirl
You can check the recommended links on the right hand side just above Map o Visitors. I am going to update it with more soon. Just keep forgetting. You can also go read Anton Bosch http://www.antonbosch.org. He is cool. And read info by Justin Peters http://www.justinpeters.org. He is cool too!
You know, I honestly believe what you are saying is so wrong – not just about Joyce but also for you. If you were a true christain you would know that you never slate anyone. ” Vengence is mine says the Lord” Joyce has helped so many of us in our christian walk and I am saddened at the aggressive, hateful tone in which you write. Rather worry about sorting yourself out and leave everyone else alone. I will pray for you.
Gob snacked
>> Joyce has helped so many of us in our christian walk
Oh so it was not Jesus Christ but Joyce….hmmmm….interesting.
thanks dtw. only those without itchy ears will be able to hear the Truth. all glory to God, and His Son, Jesus Christ forever and ever
Satan and his allies always want to disparage and accuse the brethren…including Angus Buchan and Joyce Myers !!
I think they are jealous brethen if not deceivers themselves !!
Too bad they can’t keep up with what Joyce is saying…they would be blessed if they could…and they would know she is sincerely a Christian woman who has helped millions of people relate more personally to Christ through His Holy Word !!
Those who want to tear down true believers will not stand in the last day !!
Please explain to me in more detail the oxymoron of a Jealous Bretheren?
Not gonna even comment on the rest of the stuff you wrote. My article is rather revealing. No rocket science needed to figure out that she has helped millions of people relate with the New Age Christ through her holy words (books, cds, dvds)
Again… someone wanting to pray for the author…
Joyce Meyer = buzz words
She says all the rights things (acceptable to man and his flesh), quotes all the scriptures (out of context off course) and talks so fast you can barely make out what she is saying…
Besides that she is at best a very good motivational speaker – nothing more and not close to being Christian!
Greetings
J O
I am not a fan of Joyce Meyer at all and for some of the reasons you state.
But she is not by any means an “emerging church” teacher or leader. Why would you think she is? Just because you disagree with her?
Also, you say this:
t works on the same principle as witchcrafts The Wiccan Rede If no harm is done, do as you will. Or the Emergents; The Golden Rule Do unto others as you would have them do to you.
Why would you put a wiccan saying next to one of Jesus’ sayings and pass them off as the same thing? You do know that what you call “the Emergent’s” rule is really the way of Jesus, don’t you? Why would you disparage that or say it is like a Wiccan proverb?
Do you think we shouldn’t do what Jesus commands us to do? Scripture teaches that if we love him we will. So then why make fun of those Christians who strive to do just that?
MINISTRY WATCH – DONOR ALERT – June 2005
Very interesting site to “stumble upon”!
Now I know many are gonna be very upset for me highlighting this document, but hey! It’s not for the money’s sake I’m doing this – rather I’m emphasizing the proven fact that most of these “ministry people” ride on their followers’ backs! And then have the audacity to claim that “God” is prospering them!
MinistryWatch.com calls upon donors to prayerfully consider withholding contributions to Joyce Meyer Ministries/Lifein the Word, Inc. (JMM) in response to new facts and allegations regarding lavish lifestyles enjoyed by Joyce Meyer and many of her family members. Information about extravagant spending on salaries and other benefits for Joyce Meyer has recently been made public as a result of claims by Jefferson County, Mo. Tax Assessor Randy Holman that JMM is in fact a business and not a church.
Read full article at: http://ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/pdf/MWDA_060605_JoyceMeyer.pdf
cecilia
is it ok if i paste this entry in my blog? i will make your web adress the heading?
Louder than before
Would be great, thank you, got to get the message out :)
Wow ….I feel sick to my stomach with all of this…I dont even know how I stumbled upon your website .. you know I’m only 3 yrs reborn and I’m starting to only find my way now..and so far what I’ve learnt is that we are not to judge as the bible says only God can,we are to overlook one anothers faults and pray for each other,another thing is is that we are not to be conformed to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of our minds,so that we will be able to test and approve what God’s will is,he’s good,pleasing and perfect will ( so by speaking about the wrong of other’s isn’t that like being comformed to the pattern of this world??)I have just recently bought quite a few teachings on JM and to tell you the truth yes it helps me ..because it’s guidelines for me as to how to meditate on the word so as to stop worrying and other things as well…her background relates a little to mine, but I know who my mentor is …JESUS …at the end of the day we all need encouragement and help from fellow brethrens especially if you not able to hear from God yet ..or dont have a clue as to where to start and yes you are right when we have to check with the holy spirit first…thats what the bible says …for me it all boils down to having your own intimate relationship with Jesus…God handles each of his children differently and for me I’m sure he will tell how much of JM I should listen to and I listen to what is going on inside my heart,so far my heart hasnt said a thing about JM …your website has just made me aware of certain things that are to come & I thank you for that ..once again we need to check our hearts and not analize things with our minds …and as long as we keep in check that it’s not about us but all about JESUS !!!!!AMEN ..oh & one more thing the Golden Rule is scripture so why do you have it as a wiccan thingy?? isnt that contradicting the word of God???just a thought … :0) God bless
Well… Amazed
1) As a Christian YOU SHOULD KNOW that exposing false teaching is NOT judging. Show me where I have judged her sin? (No really, please show me).
2) As a Christian YOU SHOULD KNOW that you are NOT TO tolerate deceitful teachings that lead people AWAY from the Jesus Christ of the Bible to a false Christ (who says that practising meditation is ok when it it NOT OK).
2a) If you saw a fire in a building would you warn others of the fire or would you just let them burn?
3) As a Christian who is [quote "....starting to only find my way now..."], don’t you think you should study the Bible instead of Joyce Meyer?? Just a thought.
3) You judge me, telling me how sick to your stomach you feel about me speaking out against Joyce Meyer’s TEACHINGS.
3a) Here’s a question, are you judging my sin or what I say? (No really, please answer this question)
4) You say “…once again we need to check our hearts and not analize things with our minds”
Nope! You check, test, weigh, rebuke, teach, etc, with your MIND, that is why God gave you a BRAIN so you can think WITH A SOUND MIND. When your ability to reason has been removed and you mind is clear (this is what meditation does) you can no longer reason and when you can no longer reason, any reason to check scripture to see if what you are following is the truth disappears too.
So Amazed, I hope you go and do some research on what MEDITATION really is, and when you read, believe it or not but you use your mind and not your heart ;)
Lastly: Thank you for exposing her more by confirming that she gives meditation guidelines and teaches NEW AGE OCCULT prayer.
Another snake oil seller!
I have noticed that people that follow this woman get addicted to her books and tapes. You go into her service with one problem and you come out realizing that you have 10 new problems. It’s a psychological trick to keep you coming back for more, there is just enough scripture there not to want to distrust the woman. She is a christian version of Dr Phil.
I used to listen to her every time I saw her on the telle, I even sent my dear mother 2 of her books that’d been advertised…on the telle.
Then one day..I heard her say, “We are all little gods, all of us”
That’s when I quit listening to her, found the books I’d given to my mom and threw them away.
How can so many people be caught up in this bull?
Annunk
>> How can so many people be caught up in this bull?
Satan wants mankind to glorify themselves with him at the center. Apparently it would seem that mankind thinks this is a great idea. Best part is they still get to call themselves Christians because they are technically little ‘christs’.
It’s very interesting how whenever a false teacher is being exposed, one gets accused of judging yet Scripture says they should be exposed: Ephesians 5:11 – “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”
I was myself accused of judging when I spoke out against the false teaching of a pastor who’s church I attended a few times.
I just never really had any… uhm… how does one say… inspiration to read or listen to Joyce’s things.
May I brag and say I never ever listened to Joyce. The day my hubby called me and said listen to this woman on TBN dont you think she is a snappy dresser.The moment I heard her my spirit did that “Funny little jiggle” you know the one when you hear a lie and you just know that person is fibbing.”Sweetheart” that woman has biggggggggg issues, turn her off. Phew. Snappy dresser.