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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
		<link>http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/09/the-died-again-christian-syndrome-by-the-university-of-pretoria/#comment-201782</link>
		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur, I agree w/Deborah - your poor wife must be heart-broken and suffering as you have forsaken your former beliefs. I am sure that she has callouses on her knees from praying on your behalf. 

Sounds like you had tons of &quot;head knowledge&quot; that never made it to your heart. Arthur, you are toying with your eternal destiny which if you are not saved will be torment forever and ever. The enemy of our souls has blinded you and you are in grave danger. Fall on your knees and seek your Savior - forget your pride and may the shackles fall from your eyes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_201782"><p>Arthur, I agree w/Deborah &#8211; your poor wife must be heart-broken and suffering as you have forsaken your former beliefs. I am sure that she has callouses on her knees from praying on your behalf. </p>
<p>Sounds like you had tons of &#8220;head knowledge&#8221; that never made it to your heart. Arthur, you are toying with your eternal destiny which if you are not saved will be torment forever and ever. The enemy of our souls has blinded you and you are in grave danger. Fall on your knees and seek your Savior &#8211; forget your pride and may the shackles fall from your eyes!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur

I feel sorry for your wife.  

I find it funny that as an atheist you now accept other people of ALL FAITHS - errr, ok then.  You sound like a confused atheist.  Or are you saying that you are only anesthetist regarding the Christian God and his people, but other gods of other faiths and their followers you can accept ;)  If that&#039;s the case you prove that GOD exists.

Sorry for pointing out the obvious.  You should tell your wife to come read my blog, least she will have some friends here that she can talk too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_200750"><p>Arthur</p>
<p>I feel sorry for your wife.  </p>
<p>I find it funny that as an atheist you now accept other people of ALL FAITHS &#8211; errr, ok then.  You sound like a confused atheist.  Or are you saying that you are only anesthetist regarding the Christian God and his people, but other gods of other faiths and their followers you can accept ;)  If that&#8217;s the case you prove that GOD exists.</p>
<p>Sorry for pointing out the obvious.  You should tell your wife to come read my blog, least she will have some friends here that she can talk too.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i mentioned my wife it was in the context of her being a devout born again Christian. Bible puncher par excellence. We don,t discuss Bible or Christian issues any more. She speaks the same way as you do Deborah. She also points out the obvious off pat answers Christians dish out to ex Christians. Now that i have been set free from religious indoctrination and bigotry i actually accept all people of all faiths and life styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_200668"><p>When i mentioned my wife it was in the context of her being a devout born again Christian. Bible puncher par excellence. We don,t discuss Bible or Christian issues any more. She speaks the same way as you do Deborah. She also points out the obvious off pat answers Christians dish out to ex Christians. Now that i have been set free from religious indoctrination and bigotry i actually accept all people of all faiths and life styles.</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur, I would like to add that as you describe your background that you were taught in a legalistic experience-oriented manner and never came to a saving knowledge and surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ. You have become bitter for some reason and you do not realize how much the Lord Jesus loves you. I pray you will humble yourself and turn to the only Hope you have and not believe the lies of Satan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_195305"><p>Arthur, I would like to add that as you describe your background that you were taught in a legalistic experience-oriented manner and never came to a saving knowledge and surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ. You have become bitter for some reason and you do not realize how much the Lord Jesus loves you. I pray you will humble yourself and turn to the only Hope you have and not believe the lies of Satan.</p>
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		<title>By: Burning Lamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burning Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur, any man who would degrade his wife like you did should be ashamed. Your comments smack of pride and the Bible makes it clear how much God hates pride. Perhaps some soul-searching on your part would be in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_195300"><p>Arthur, any man who would degrade his wife like you did should be ashamed. Your comments smack of pride and the Bible makes it clear how much God hates pride. Perhaps some soul-searching on your part would be in order.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur

&gt;&gt;  Deborah you are very emotional. You sound like my wife. You sound like a fanatic. You believe like a fanatic. Are you one?

You sound like such a nice person; a woman abuser (psychological).  Someone with no disregard for women. Are you one?

I would say you were never truly saved to start with dude if you lost your faith.  If you read your bible correctly (or at all) when you are saved and GENUINELY have the Holy Spirit abiding in you you are SEALED and the Bible says the Holy Spirit will be with you forever.

John 14:16  &quot;16  And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you &lt;strong&gt;forever&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;

Ephesians 1:13-14   &quot;13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[a] is the &lt;strong&gt;guarantee &lt;/strong&gt;of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory&quot;

2 Corinthians 1:22  &quot;22 who also has &lt;strong&gt;sealed &lt;/strong&gt;us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a &lt;strong&gt;guarantee&lt;/strong&gt;. &quot;

Ephesians 4:30   &quot;30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were &lt;strong&gt;sealed for&lt;/strong&gt; the day of redemption.&quot;

You were someone who had a form of godliness, you appeared to be Christian, but you were not.  

2 Timothy 3:1-2,5  &quot; 1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,.....5 &lt;strong&gt;having a form of godliness but denying its power&lt;/strong&gt;. And from such people turn away!&quot;

&gt;&gt;  Your belief, if it is true should with stand intense scrutiny. What are you afraid of? The truth always hurts.

I stand intense scrutiny each day on this blog by commenters (hence I have the guts to keep the comments section open) for chops like you to come and give me a hard time (or so you think).  Give it your best buddy ol&#039; pal -but refrain for calling me names mkay?  Can you do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_195017"><p>Arthur</p>
<p>>>  Deborah you are very emotional. You sound like my wife. You sound like a fanatic. You believe like a fanatic. Are you one?</p>
<p>You sound like such a nice person; a woman abuser (psychological).  Someone with no disregard for women. Are you one?</p>
<p>I would say you were never truly saved to start with dude if you lost your faith.  If you read your bible correctly (or at all) when you are saved and GENUINELY have the Holy Spirit abiding in you you are SEALED and the Bible says the Holy Spirit will be with you forever.</p>
<p>John 14:16  &#8220;16  And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you <strong>forever</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>Ephesians 1:13-14   &#8220;13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[a] is the <strong>guarantee </strong>of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory&#8221;</p>
<p>2 Corinthians 1:22  &#8220;22 who also has <strong>sealed </strong>us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a <strong>guarantee</strong>. &#8221;</p>
<p>Ephesians 4:30   &#8220;30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were <strong>sealed for</strong> the day of redemption.&#8221;</p>
<p>You were someone who had a form of godliness, you appeared to be Christian, but you were not.  </p>
<p>2 Timothy 3:1-2,5  &#8221; 1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,&#8230;..5 <strong>having a form of godliness but denying its power</strong>. And from such people turn away!&#8221;</p>
<p>>>  Your belief, if it is true should with stand intense scrutiny. What are you afraid of? The truth always hurts.</p>
<p>I stand intense scrutiny each day on this blog by commenters (hence I have the guts to keep the comments section open) for chops like you to come and give me a hard time (or so you think).  Give it your best buddy ol&#8217; pal -but refrain for calling me names mkay?  Can you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah you are very emotional. You sound like my wife. You sound like a fanatic. You believe like a fanatic. Are you one? Jaco,s testimony of losing his faith was unbelievable and very moving. I have also lost mine. Born again, baptised in water and the holy ghost and a part time missionary and preacher. Fundamentalist, pentecostal and now an atheist.

Your belief, if it is true should with stand intense scrutiny. What are you afraid of? The truth always hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_194351"><p>Deborah you are very emotional. You sound like my wife. You sound like a fanatic. You believe like a fanatic. Are you one? Jaco,s testimony of losing his faith was unbelievable and very moving. I have also lost mine. Born again, baptised in water and the holy ghost and a part time missionary and preacher. Fundamentalist, pentecostal and now an atheist.</p>
<p>Your belief, if it is true should with stand intense scrutiny. What are you afraid of? The truth always hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: sylesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louisa,
it is the goodness of God that leads to repentance, however, Christ warned to fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell!



8 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 
Matt 10:28-29 (KJV)


Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance
Romans 2:4 (KJV)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_123710"><p>Louisa,<br />
it is the goodness of God that leads to repentance, however, Christ warned to fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell!</p>
<p>8 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29<br />
Matt 10:28-29 (KJV)</p>
<p>Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance<br />
Romans 2:4 (KJV)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly there seems to be a paradox when an intelligent man like Jaco studies the scriptures from the interlectia approach and the repetition of the original sin (which is the exceptional deep and hard to recognise sin that is dormant and cleverly disguised in all of us and especially the very high principaled and intelligent...pride). It is &quot;the snake in the grass&quot;...no pun intended...so difficult to discern especially in ourselves...this is what makes it so deadly and it is no surprise that God forbade this fruit to be eaten.
Genesis 2:16–17 
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_123584"><p>Sadly there seems to be a paradox when an intelligent man like Jaco studies the scriptures from the interlectia approach and the repetition of the original sin (which is the exceptional deep and hard to recognise sin that is dormant and cleverly disguised in all of us and especially the very high principaled and intelligent&#8230;pride). It is &#8220;the snake in the grass&#8221;&#8230;no pun intended&#8230;so difficult to discern especially in ourselves&#8230;this is what makes it so deadly and it is no surprise that God forbade this fruit to be eaten.<br />
Genesis 2:16–17<br />
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah (Discerning the World)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah (Discerning the World)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 06:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louisa L

You don&#039;t know the difference between a FAKE Christian and a GENUINE Christian.  You&#039;ve obviously never been a GENUINE born again Christian to speak on our behalf and say we follow God out of fear - what nonsense. 

This article was written out of hatred for JESUS CHRIST because of someone who had NO LOVE FOR GOD. 

Genuine Christians are NOT people who do GOOD WORKS.  There are a billion unbelievers who act good but who hate God. 

Before you comment, make sure you understand EXACTLY what you are talking about first.  You say everyone is entitled to their own views, but you stifle mine?  Pfff, hypocrite.

You have no love for God just as this author has no love for God otherwise you would NEVER support a person who insults Jesus Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_123422"><p>Louisa L</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know the difference between a FAKE Christian and a GENUINE Christian.  You&#8217;ve obviously never been a GENUINE born again Christian to speak on our behalf and say we follow God out of fear &#8211; what nonsense. </p>
<p>This article was written out of hatred for JESUS CHRIST because of someone who had NO LOVE FOR GOD. </p>
<p>Genuine Christians are NOT people who do GOOD WORKS.  There are a billion unbelievers who act good but who hate God. </p>
<p>Before you comment, make sure you understand EXACTLY what you are talking about first.  You say everyone is entitled to their own views, but you stifle mine?  Pfff, hypocrite.</p>
<p>You have no love for God just as this author has no love for God otherwise you would NEVER support a person who insults Jesus Christ.</p>
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